We have a saying in America " If you have hands that grow out your ass, it's a good thing, more hands to feel up your girl friend" :)

Your new gear will not make you produce any better art than you already do

Yep. And it seems like many here are saving their gear for no less than Oscar winner :-)

As they are even unable to film their cat - http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9466/personal-view-nest-video-contest-cats-special#Item_15:-)

Waiting 4K raw for this?

@TrackZillas, @lunalobo75, @LongJohnSilver, Let's not pretend that at a certain point quality gear does matter. Yes it's more important to have the skills to get the job done but most would also love to have gear that helps make the job easier. Now we have low cost options that make it a bit easier. Still I don't NEED a BMPCC or GH4 but i'd like it for the better starting quality and all of the wonderful options it would give me. The 96fps is nice. 10bits 4:2:2 is nice.

I still have and use a GH1 so I know that I can get the job done with it, but there are things that would be better which can't be fixed because of know how. I can't make my GH1 have less aliasing or do 96fps. I can't connect an HDMI monitor or WiFi to my GH1. There is such a thing as just plain better. I'm curious just how much of an improvement there is in the 1080p of the GH4. If it's equal or even better than the GM1 I think it's gonna be a big hit. I'd have to imagine that it will beat the GM1 given all the processing and advanced AF100 like settings adjustments.

absolutely correct, no "better" movies because of that but for a multicam I need a new cam anyway so why not go straight for the GH4? ;-)

a BIG +1 for @TrackZillas post. On a race track, size of the engine only matters as much as the skill of the driver... or something like that if your into engine block sizes.

@kholi I was wondering why it kept doing that with EOSHD's link... pretty funny:) I know there are issues with him in the past, and it maybe taboo to post his stuff since PV forum considers him a tabloid tech blogger, but I thought it was a pretty clear comparison of the 2 cams (Gh4 and BMC4K). Don't know if he's correct about the video DR of the GH4 though.

@AdamT AF works with Oly 14-35/35-100 on the GH2. I think it also works on GH3 (can anybody confirm?). So I hope that these lenses are fully supportet on the GH4 (also considering the new defocus AF) - but I don't know and it would be a dealbreaker for me.

I'm ready to buy 2 of them right now for $1600!

maybe a stupid question but can I try getting into an argument with the customs? I will definetley buy a US model because of the 30 minute video restriction in the US and the only reason will be obviously the recording limit so I think it is not fair that I spend a single buck more than the price it costs in Germany in stores plus that 5 percent raise of tax for video cameras they are talking about, you know what I mean? otherwise I would pay A LOT more for an imported version

You know what I've come to realize guy's Technology have caught-up to our demands long ago, example the BMPCC $1000 for a camera that shoots 10bit 422HQ and Raw 12bit with 13 stops of DR internally... Still most shooters can't create beautiful images with it we need the necessary skills to work with such of quality ProRes, or Raw that's all I'm saying. I've been browsing through youtube and vimeo for a while for real production with these cameras only to find a hand full of Quality ones. I believe that it all boils down to our skill-set going back to the roots of cinematography and learning the real basics. GH4 will be another great camera on the market no doubt about it I'm interested in one, but @ the end of the day it won't replace real skill-set, or make up for the lack of knowledge of talent.

@mpgxsvcd - no, that would be great! Just haven't seen it confirmed anywhere that the variable frame rate can use the highest encoding.

@Driftwood

Many Thanks for the PDF. Can you ask Pany for the real Dynamic Range of the GH4 ? personally i expected 12,5 stops… maybe it was higher ;-)

Just a reality check. Everyone has been asking for 4K 10 bit 4:2:2 for so long. Now that it is almost upon us will you ask for 8K 14 bit 4:4:4 next or will you finally be satisfied with 4K 10 bit 4:2:2?