Laurie Oakes is probably the most respected and trusted journo I've ever come across, Laurie Oakes tells it how it all happened.
Much more interesting is to talk to natives and that they think about Mandela. :-) That is definitely true is that he significantly increased demand for big walls, high voltage electric protection systems and automatic weapons among hard working people in his country.
@vk It will be interesting to hear from the natives what they really think, and if they had the time again would they, or could they have taken a different path.
that depends if you talk to black natives...or white natives ! Most of the white ubberclass abandoned SA years ago, when they realized they had no more cheap labor under their thumbs. The sad fact of whites in africa is nothing but a history of exploitation, where human being were just another product. I imagine that's enough reason for the remaining whites to need those big walls w/barbed wire.
Mandela's philosophy sadly was a result of the world at that particular time. He probably would be a libertarian today. Some very great intellectuals were fooled by communism's promises, not realizing that all ism's lead to totalitarianism in the end.
he sad fact of whites in africa is nothing but a history of exploitation, where human being were just another product. I imagine that's enough reason for the remaining whites to need those big walls w/barbed wire.
One that I know have nothing to do with "history of exploitation, where human being were just another product". yet, if they had chance, most will kill Mandela and his friends in an instant.
The ones I know left decades ago, along with their wealth and settled in Texas on big estates !
Once you're on their list, you can't get off, even if you're a president !
@Kurth funny you should say that he may have been a "libertarian today" as both left and right ex Prime Ministers of Australia (Whitlam,Fraser,Hawke) never flinched once concerning the end of apertheid
There's a saying " Yesterday's terrorist is tomorrow's statesman" but it can change back and forth! Depending on what's on the news prompter today!
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists. . .
......not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty (International) refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”
http://thebackbencher.co.uk/3-things-you-didnt-want-to-know-about-nelson-mandela/
Another view by Poet Musa Okwonga
You will say that Mandela stood above all for forgiveness whilst scuttling swiftly over the details of the perversity that he had the grace to forgive. You will try to make out that apartheid was some horrid spontaneous historical aberration, and not the logical culmination of centuries of imperial arrogance.
Apartheid Did Not Die Directed by John Pilger
White supremacy remained unchanged. It’s no different today. A few blacks share wealth, power and privilege. The vast majority of black society is worse off than under apartheid. Mandela embraced the worst of neoliberal harshness. His successors follow the same model. Pilger posed tough questions. He asked Mandela how ANC freedom fighting ended up embracing Thatcherism. Mandela responded saying: “You can put any label on it you like. You can call it Thatcherite but, for this country, privatization is the fundamental policy.”
http://www.dailycensored.com/mandelas-disturbing-legacy/
“Apartheid based on race is outlawed now, but the system always went far deeper than that. The cruelty and injustice were underwritten by an economic apartheid, which regarded people as no more than cheap expendable labor. It was backed by great business corporations in South Africa, Britain, the rest of Europe, and the United States. And it was this apartheid based on money and profit to allow a small minority to control most of the land, most of the industrial wealth, and most of the economic power. Today, the same system is called – without a trace of irony – the free market.”
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