Panasonic GH1 firmware research, testing

yskunto

It is nice to hear that the attempt to revive GH1 is making a progress. I hope @humpman 's findings soon can be port to the old GF1 and G2. If I could only find a cheap GH1, then I will join the party soon.

humpman

@Futurity, i'd like to read reviews of it.

Futurity

Wow! Great job. I will definitely try it out.

humpman

New settings here, scaling tables for i-p frames and fallback. Tables that developed for GH2 not so comfortable for GH1 due to low bitrates. You need edit user.ini file to change tables. Be careful, table size must be exact 192 bytes. Remember, you doing this at your own risk! Ask if you have questions.

I included own settings, test it.

Just fast comparison:

Stock

Custom

As you can see, on account of lower qp you can note better detalisation and texture.

yskunto

I believe that G2 encoder is similar to GF1. The only difference is G2 does not have 4:2:2 capability for MJPEG. It is 4:2:0.

G2 as well as GF1 does not have true 720p50/60. Both double the actual frame 720p25/30 to achieve 720p50/60. That is all what I know. Vitaliy should now thousand times better. Is your port to GF1 identical to your user.ini?

Vitaliy_Kiselev

but with G2 there is some differences i think, i don't have knowledge too much on it.

By idea all same generation cameras have almost same encoder.

humpman

@yskunto i did port it for GF1, there is all same and it was simple, but with G2 there is some differences i think, i don't have knowledge too much on it.

yskunto

Any chance to adapt the QP to the Lumix G2? Currently, I run it using LPowell Fast 3 GOP v2 setting.

humpman

@yskunto Ok, here you go, i attached settings. Place setc.ini and user.ini together.

Don't change anything in user.ini if you do not want break your cam!!!, if you want you are welcome.

yskunto

Can you provide PTOOL setting for your firmware setup? Thanks

humpman

@IronFilm as situations i meant trees, bushes, grass etc., also static shots.

IronFilm

As we know native 24p/25p freezes sometimes in some situations, so i rejected it.

What situations?

humpman

Ok, i'm to stop chasing bitrates and turn to stability. As we know native 24p/25p freezes sometimes in some situations, so i rejected it. This one will be interlace. Did you ever saw differences between native and deinterlaced image on GH1? I didn't. Visually they almost same.
For first, it's stable on deathchart. It has constant bitrtate about 43 Mbps. Also here i didn't touched 50p/60p modes, they are identical to popular settings for GH1. Main difference in this firmware comparing to other popular settings is about min QP. I set it to 0, when standart setting is 20. So now encoder takes QP value, that he needed to achieve 43Mbps without limitation of min 20. And lower QP = better quality.

Short about settings:
MJPEG frame rate 2 fps for timelapses.
AVCHD 1080 60i/50i constant bitrate about 43Mbps.
AVCHD 720 50p/60p max bitrate 43Mbps.

Download link https://www.dropbox.com/s/9oklz86rriip4dr/GH1__132.bin?dl=0

humpman

New patched firmware. Download link https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ei7y5x37r0wlf6/GH1__132.bin?dl=0 Not stable, no 60p/50p, for those who still use GH1 and want little more then other settings that exist for now. Good for low light and low detailed scenes. Try it.

Short about settings:
MJPEG frame rate 2 fps for timelapses.
AVCHD 1080p 24p/25p constant bitrate about 48Mbps.
AVCHD 720 50p/60p turned to 25p/24p, less rolling shutter, good for jerky shots.

humpman

Still problem on gh1, when i-frames goes higher than about 700kb(777600) it will causes error after several seconds depending on i-frames sizes.

humpman

Did on gf1, absolutely same.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

It is good. We need to start same open project on GH2 firmware also.

humpman

QP_init affect only first frame of first second, it's usefull, cause starting with high QP's appears error immediately.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

And how it looks? Only affect initial second?

humpman

Yes, I used it and also other programms like Stream Eye.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@humpman

Yep, it seems like something similar. Did you tried Chris software and other stream research soft to check it out for sure?

humpman

With these settings and allready exists settings in ptool, i developed stable Baseline 50Mbps cbr style settings. As i said turning to Baseline or Main disables quantization scaling tables and it causes more blocky image, particularly on showdows. Quantization scaling smoothes that blocks, but effects on overall resolution too.

humpman

Limit setting. I don't realy understand is it for I-frame only or for group of pictures in 1 sec. But dropping frames and write errors may appear on high bitrates when this number slow.

First

Second

humpman

Screens about QP.

Init QP settings, for first frame:

And two separately placed QP settings, but them working together:
First part

Second part

humpman

So, there is 3 codec profiles in GH1. Baseline, Main, High.
Code numbers for each mode:
* 01 - Baseline
* 03 - Main
* 04 - High

Turning it to Baseline or Main disables quantization scaling tables as specified in profiles standart.
Also there is Standart setting with variants:
* 00 - Component
* 01 - PAL
* 02 - NTSC
* 03 - Secam
* 04 - MAC
* 05 - Reserved

Aspect ratio setting that just changing header for players to know, variants:
* 00 - Standart
* 01 - Wide
* 02 - 4:3
* 03 - More wide
* 04 - 2.2:1 (Anamorph)
* 05 - Extremely wide

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