ND filters

vicharris

I just did a test between the LCW Fader Mark II, Genus Fader, A Tiffen Whitewater 4x4 ND and a normal Tiffen 4x4 ND. If I have time before I fly out I'll put up a raw video of them all. Very interesting. One thing for sure, the LCW is a piece of shit!

soundgh2

Genus Eclipse got a glowing review here - their new fader ND

http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/2012/12/06/genustech-eclipse-fader-nd-filter-sets-new-standard-all-for-165-us/

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@soundgh2

Good thing to understand that it is paid review, and this guys are their sponsors and advertisers :-)

soundgh2

Aye looked kind of excited bout it didnt he :) Looks like they gave a lot away for free lol

http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/nd-fader-shootout-heliopan-vs-the-new-genus-eclipse/

vicharris

Well I'd have to say it beats out the LCW one. The LCW fader ruined some shots because I was unaware of it's horrible softness with anything over 50mm. It shows easily in my tests. The one fun thing about my tests is that I forgot to shoot a shot without any filter! Oh fun. So there's no constant to compare against. Only color of the filters. The two faders put in a slight green tint and the Tiffen glass look like it darkened it up and even took away contrast. We really couldn't tell the difference in the normal glass and the whitewater glass, especially for the price.

goanna

that it is paid review, and this guys are their sponsors and advertisers

Unless I'm missing something, their only overt fault is accepting or offering advertising space without:

a) declaring it, or; b) Giving equal advertising space to competitors.

Although it's not the worst of journalistic sins, it's a bad look. I think it's wise of us to be sceptical these days. Whatever happened to the "Sony lent us their new camera to try out" review? For me, it lends credibility.

(I just spent Xmas dinner with my family of good journalists who've moved on into marketing) :-(

matt_gh2

Any opinion on whether the extra cost for the Water White version of the Tiffen ND filters are worth it? Better image quality, and color accuracy over the the regular Tiffen ND filters? Also, anyone with experience comparing the Tiffen Ciruclar Polarizer filters with and without the Water White - any difference in quality here?

azza_act

Has anyone had an experience with the Genus Eclipse yet? I need to upgrade from my 72mm heliopad (I have wider lenses now) there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews.

feha

@azza_act , i do have Genus Eclipse 77mm (outer 82mm) it looks and works great. Have not made any extended tests yet, but it gives very good results, my first impression.

vicharris

@feha Have you checked for softness beyond 50mm and 85mm on MFT? LCW fader is garbage for that and the regular Genus isn't much better. I'm pretty sure it's good just want to hear it from someone here. Thanks

vicharris

@matt_gh2 I know your question is old but I couldn't really tell the difference between my WW Tiffen and my normal one. That's 4x4 ND glass though. They did both however blow away the LCW fader as stated above. Hope that helps. I'm going to use my LCW as a coaster for our nice driftwood table now. :)

feha

@vicharris , i will check tomorrow, have one vintage zoom lens ... till now i just tested with Voigtländer 25mm 0.95 ...

vicharris

@feha Cool. I was just getting ready to order one but I'll wait till you have time to check it out. Thanks again.

matt_gh2

@vicharris Just recently got the 77mm Tiffen Indie Kit with 4 WW ND filters (.3,.6,.9, & 1.2).Happy with quality on initial tests. Will use on feature film I'm shooting in March-April.I haven't forgot your recommendation for shooting at 1/40 or 1/30. Will test soon. If you haven't seen trailer, here's link. You may dig it. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5966/the-crazy-life-trailer-hacked-gh2-feature-film#Item_2

sammy

Guys I have always wondered about how far are we in terms of technology to getting a selective ND filter, meaning ,its smart (with a chip i assume) enough to recognize blowing out areas (Or highlights) and applying the ND filter to that part of the frame and knowing what parts are exposed correctly or under exposed and leaving them as is without applying the ND filter..I guess that would be the dream ND filter.