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  • Damn I was hoping their 17mm would work with their anamorphic!

  • Thanks Seb, every video you shoot looks great. Even the lens looks great, but i've ordered the CV 17,5mm. Can't resist.

    Think the price will be the point: if low, this is a must.

  • Thanks for watching :)

  • copied from separate topic by Seb :

    I've just had for few days the prototype of the upcoming SLR Magic 17mm T1.6 lens in micro 4/3 mount.

    This lens reminds me the one from Voigtlander the 17mm f0.95 I test once .

    Despite it's a T1.6, the SLR is a very fast lens, and I had to use strong ND filter on it to be able to use it at it's fastest speed at 1/50 shutter speed. This lens is a prototype so I can't show it, but this model looks quite like the 25mm T0.95 from SLR. It has also a no click aperture ring. Most of the shot of the movie are taken at T1.6, and you can see the very good sharpness of the lens, even at its fastest aperture.

    SLR Magic told me that : "this is a SLR Magic CINE designation lens and not a HyperPrime lens so it is made for the budget indie filmmaker. It is in the same series as our 35mm T1.4 CINE II lens. Price of the production 17mm T1.6 lens is TBA (to be announced). The SLR Magic CINE 17mm T1.6 will have the same mechanical build as our 35mm T1.4 CINE II lens that repeatable focus. The 35mm T1.4 CINE II lens will be compatible with our upcoming 1.33x Anamorphic adapter but the 17mm T1.6 will not be on the compatible list. Field curvature effects causing softness at extreme when focusing at close focus distance were put into consideration during lens design and edge sharpness should be quite sharp even when wide open. Light falloff during wide open aperture is well controlled."

    I have use the OMD E-M5 from Olympus. I've bought recently this camera because I was really impressed by the movie of Andrew Reid, where we can see the proficient internal 5 axis stabilization system. It was quite hard for me to use this new camera. Two main problems have appeared :

    1. I found that the contrast in classic image mode are very strong, the black are too black to my opinion (I've used the Natural mode). Then I decided to change the mode and I've used the Art filter 3 (ton neutre et lumineux, I suppose in english it's "neutral and bright tone") to have less strong blacks. But this mode gives green rendering (and the ND add it too), so I try to color corrected it. That's why you have two mode in this movie, the Art filter 3 is in the countryside and seaside shots. I did light color correction in quite all the clips.

    2. The second problem is the using of ND filter on OMD with the stabilization. At the begining of my shooting I was using a variable ND filter from Cokin. The problem is that there is slight vigneting when you are closing it. And this vigneting is moving because of the stabilization. You can see this issue in some of the shot, the traveling with the girl with the yellow bag, for example.Then I decided to use another ND filter, not a variable, the Hoya NDX400. With a constant ND filter, the problem of the "moving vigneting" disappear. But it's less easy to use. Especially with the OMD that has less efficient dynamic range than the GH3.

    Anyway despite this problems I have discover with my first use of the OMD camera, I'm really impressed by its internal stabilization sytem, for example it allowed me to do these shot from the car in the small roads of north Ireland, with a third part lens such as this SLR Magic 17mm T1.6. I'm really happy using this lens, it is a good experience and it's useful to have a fast 17mm, especially when you think that 25mm is not enough wide, and 12mm too wide.

    • Olympus OMD E-M5
    • SLR Magic 17mm T1.6 (prototype)
    • 1080P 30
    • "Natural" and "Art 3 bright and neutral" modes
    • Variable Cokin ND filter
    • NDX400 ND filter from Hoya
    • edited on Adobe Premiere CS6
    • CC on Premiere

    Music (mash up) :

    • Midlake "The Courage Of The Other"
    • King Crimson "In The Court Of The Crimson King""
  • @sebfarges

    Your videos are always inspiring. A capture of a day in the life with your current tools, love it. The colors are actually quite unique and very pleasing to eye. Will be looking forward to this lens.

  • Just might be priced pretty competitively too ;)

  • Anyway: the 17mm from SLRMagic will have f1.6 only.

  • Oh my god, never know 35mm full frame aspect was different than the 35mm of cinema. Now became a problem.

    Anyway: why talking about the gh2? It's the past, multi aspect ratio will not come back, the standard is "about 2x" (gh3, Omd, ecc.). It's the Mft world.

  • Nothing says "this is not cinematic" like shooting with a 31.62mm lens.

    Of course! Fellini, Hitchcock and Welles used to say "31.62mm is not cinematic! " at least twice a day.

    LOL!!!

  • @vichariis

    I agree, but for the life of me, I don't know why folks insist on comparing sensors of what are supposed to be motion picture cameras, to full-frame DSLRs, rather than actual motion picture standards. Will it never end?

  • Oh god, please, not the crop discussion again guys!! :)

  • Actually the GH2 has a crop of 1.86X in 16:9 video mode.

    You mean in relation to a full-frame DSLR -- a sensor-size not generally in use in cinema since Vista-Vision in the 1950s?

    Compared to a standard 35mm motion picture frame, the crop factor of the GH2 is about 1.2. So it's hard to see how a 17mm lens is useless, unless you've got something against a 20mm equivalent.

    As for a 32mm lens in 35mm cinema, that's pretty much the "normal" lens, a favorite of the likes of Roger Deakins, among others.

  • Actually the GH2 has a crop of 1.86X in 16:9 video mode. So to truly get a 35mm equiv lens, SLR Magic must produce a 18.8172043011mm lens for m43. That 17mm lens is just a sign of laziness, pure and simple.

    Why would I as a filmmaker want to shoot a scene of my latest spec video featuring rapping white guys in suits with devil clown makeup using a 31.62mm FOV?! It would RUIN THE WHOLE THRUST. I don't want the amateurish wide stupid 31.62mm look. Nothing says "this is not cinematic" like shooting with a 31.62mm lens.

    I want - no, I need a true precision 18.8172043011mm lens for m43 to get the look needed for cinematic greatness. Then my friend's white guy clown makeup rap group Chupa Chupa Anarchy will accept my vision as a fellow artist's, instead of just that guy they know who has a camera and won't be a little bitch about wanting to get "paid" and whatnot.

    We as members of the filmmaking community must reject this 17mm lens offering and demand that SLR Magic and anyone else who wants us to take them seriously produce instead a true 18.8172043011mm lens for m43 so we GH2 shooters can nail that elusive 35mm look without having to move our cameras a little bit closer to achieve it with that mongrel 17mm. Stand up for your rights, brothers, lest ye be trampled by the slippery slope of mixed metaphors.