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Best Clasic C Mount Lenses from the 16mm era
  • JohnBarlowJohnBarlow

    Interested in peoples opinions on classic C Mount lenses in the sub 50mm region.

    Currently looking at Zeiss, Kern, Berthiot

    If you have some experience to share why not put it down here?

    ...and also any zooms you particularly like.

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1925/c-mount-lenses-for-m43/p1

  • JohnBarlowJohnBarlow

    Hi Vitaly

    I saw that post but the emphasis is on cheap CCTV.

    Here the emphasis is on classic and best from the 16mm era

  • trevmartrevmar

    John, are you thinking about lens options for the new BlackMagic :) ?

  • QuickHitRecordQuickHitRecord

    Any lens that ends up in this thread is going to jump in value. ;-)

  • trevmartrevmar

    Yes, I would love a compact, bright, zoom lens for the super-16 sensor, even if it only resolved 2000 lines or so (LOL)

  • JohnBarlowJohnBarlow

    My interest is in purchasing now before the goldrush :)

    I keep having dreams about Benoist Berthiot lenses and the other ones LOL

  • vicharrisvicharris

    I've been searching for days but can't find anything that's below $2000! :)

  • JohnBarlowJohnBarlow

    for that money the least they could do is throw in a free Bolex H16

    he he

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bolex-H16-/121093663622?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_101&hash=item1c31beab86

  • trevmartrevmar

    Do you recognize the lens on the Bolex, John?

  • balazerbalazer

    Angenieux 12-120, or something similar. Such old 16 mm zoom lenses don't cover Super 16.

  • nomadnomad

    Right, only the 15 to 150 does, and that's still pricey.

  • JohnBarlowJohnBarlow

    Yes its Angenieux, probably the slow F3.5 version.

    THe Kern Switar are probably the ones to get, but at a great premium

  • balazerbalazer

    For guys interested in zoom lenses:

    Another option is the Abakus B4-to-Super 16 converter, in C-mount or PL-mount. It has a block of glass that acts like the prism in a 3-CCD camera (I think), and also 1.32x magnification to enlarge the 2/3" image to cover Super 16. It costs $1500, but very good ENG-style B4 zoom lenses can be had for a few hundred dollars.

    http://www.abakus-scientific.com/Format_Converters.htm

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    I posted that in another thread:

    I found this and it seems that it is not that easy as it might have looked at the first sight http://eclair16.com/lenses/super-16-compatible-lenses/

  • JohnBarlowJohnBarlow

    Whilst it is true that lenses designed for 16mm are not guaranteeed to cover S16mm, there is a workround........

    If you shoot with a 2x scope in 16:9 and crop for 2.35:1 WHICH MEANS you discard 16% of the image left and right, then all 16mm lenses are perfectly useful under this workflow.

  • spacewigspacewig

    Curious if anyone has experience with the Zeiss 10-100 lens? If so, would you mind sharing your experience/opinion of the lens and how it compares to the better MFT lenses.

    Thank you kindly in advance.

    Cheers

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    Any infos on the angenieux 6-90mm f1,2? that would be a nice focal length but it will probably not cover the full sensor....

  • balazerbalazer

    Google is your friend. The Angenieux 6-90 is a Super 8 lens.

  • spacewigspacewig

    Not sure if that comment was intended for me but I have googled and read the specs of that lens. I'm rather hoping that someone from this community who's actually put it to use might be able to provide some subjective feedback. PM would be fine also.

  • NorthNorth

    16mm C Mount lens. Century Optics Night Hawk 1.9 50mm. Aside from stabilisations issues, thoughts on this sort of thing as a telephoto lens on the BMPC? Designed for 16mm not S16 and at 50mm so it will be 140mm equivalent-ish? Any one know the date of manufacture of this one?

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  • nomadnomad

    Don't know the date, but there's a good chance it will cover S-16 – most of the longer ones for 16mm do.

    But any S-8 lens will give you a nice pinhole only…

  • PaddyPaddy

    @spacewig: "Curious if anyone has experience with the Zeiss 10-100 lens?" I tested it on a S16 camera many, many years ago and it did vignette when wide open and on shorter focal length (you could see the vignetting in the viewfinder). I don't remember the exact values, but I would say it should cover S16 as of T 3.1 or 3.5 and beyond 20 mm... Apart from this annoying fact, it was a superb lens, much better than the Angenieux 12-120 or 9.5-57.

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    Any thoughts on this one?

    Angenieux-Zoom 1,2/6-90mm C-Mount

  • balazerbalazer

    As explained already, the Angenieux 6-90 is a Super 8 lens, and a Super 8 lens on a Super 16 camera will produce a very small image circle that does not come even close to covering the frame. Super 8 has an image circle diameter of 7 millimeters. Super 16 has an image circle diameter of 14.5 millimeters. To use such a lens you need to crop by more than a factor of two in each dimension and lose more than 75 percent of your resolution. If you really want to use that lens, put it on your GH2 and use it in 720 ETC mode. It will more than cover the 720 ETC sensor area. Or use 1080 ETC mode and crop.

  • spacewigspacewig

    @Paddy What was your impression regarding sharpness, contrast, color rendition, etc? Also, do you think it would match well with the olympus 14-35, 35-100 zoom lenses?

    Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.

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