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New Rode 16 Channel 360' Mic
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  • I made a mistake. I just noticed: "Combining the Mid-Side and X/Y mics together allows full 360-degree surround sound recordings in either 2-channel or 4-channels. In 2-channel mode the sound is recorded to a single stereo file, while in 4-channel mode two separate stereo files are recorded to provide more options when it comes to post-production"

    I didn't see that in Zoom's VST module . Will have to look more closely. Maybe I can do even better with this $125 gadget...

  • Well, they changed the date on their announcement to April 1. Looks like a prank after all. Thinking about it array microphones could be pretty interesting, but not arranged in a wheel. It does get me thinking about properly designed array microphones, though.

  • A true array would respond to changes in environment, or consist of an extremely large number of small microphones that have network profiles. Otherwise there is no reason to have an array, since it is easy using MADI to hook up a few dozen mics to one cable and create the virtual array in post. Another intriguing way to use arrays is use certain mics for certain frequencies, in the way that a speaker uses different drivers with a crossover.

    Here's a simple array anyone can try (with cheaper alternatives): a Schoeps MK2H or DPA measurement mic (Oktava omni) for the bass, Sennheiser MKH 40 for the mids (Oktava cardioid) and an Earthworks QT 30 or 40 for the treble (RODE small diaphragm omni). You have to create EQ curves to smoothly handle the crossovers. Tie the three together with rubber bands (or silicon O rigns) to retain phase and isolate against noise.

    If you like ribbon mics, but are disappointed in the top end and bass extension (they don't have either) you can create a gorgeous sound by using such an array with a ribbon mic--or coincident pair of ribbon mics--in the middle of this array, and then blend the treble and bass in to extend the range from 20 Hz to 24 kHz.

  • Here's an interesting array microphone - but it's $15,000:

    You can buy decent capsules for really cheap these days. Seems to me someone could replicate this kind of thing for less than 1/10th the price using today's technology.

  • @tetakpatak

    I see other advantages to array microphones, aside from normal recording considerations:

    Noise suppression - achieved by differentiating out sound data from other directions.

    Narrow pickup pattern from normal capsules - achieved by processing proximate capsules. In fact, you could tune the patterns to a certain extent.

    Surround - obviously.

    Virtual capabilities in post - you could create virtual channels from the array such as narrow pattern channels in various directions with noise suppression for dialog and surround ambient channels, then mix them as if they had been captured with separate devices. MS configurations, etc... You could pretty much pick what you want in post.

    Teleconferencing companies have array systems that make relatively distant sources sound like they are close up - could be some interesting possibilities there.

    Capsules and reasonably high quality opamps and AD converters are so cheap these days that their cost is insignificant compared to the case you put them in. Why not consider designs with lots of capsules?

  • @cbrandin You might find the new Dolby Atmos theater sound system interesting as it employs a similar application of sound source virtualization technology. The processing is inverted of course, since it's a 3D loudspeaker array rather than a microphone array. I heard a technical demonstration in the Dolby theater and the dynamic 3D effect was uncanny, especially the simulation of someone walking up behind you.

  • How can it not be an april fools joke? The capsules look to be the same as the NT4 and the NT5 which would mean needing phantom power and I doubt the iPhone is capable of providing that. Its also not on listed in their product line anywhere on the website.

    Ahaa, but there is the iXY which looks quite handy. Anyone tried this?

  • Mates, I agree with the idea in general. I am also big fan of surround sound, I've recorded all my sound productions since 2004 in surround. Preferably 2+2+2 instead of 5x1.

    But I don't want to go off topic, I just feel like an April Fool regarding this 16mics device :-)

    BTW for my personal taste Rode's capsules I know sound tad too sharp, but the sound of different capsules vary as much as is the case with different lenses. But this is now off topic....

  • @MirrorMan

    So - all that means is that it can record for a full five minutes with a fully charged battery. Easy to get around - just buy 20 iTouch devices and rotate them to achieve a reasonable day's shooting;)

    Or, wire four car batteries in series for power. You could use them as weights for your tripod - very stable! And you will only have to recharge once every few months (mostly because of self-discharging) even with full days of shooting...

  • Yeah sure I'm going to buy this and next year they'll come out with the i32 and I'll look like an idiot with my 16 mics..!


  • It's official - look at Philip Bloom's April Fools Page:

    Interesting, though, he does mention that some day this might be true! After all, the Canon Raw thing is already sort of true (BMC) and it's actually cheaper than the Canon was.

  • What a humourless lot