Driftwood ClusterX series 2:│moon│ЅріzZ│nebula│drewnet│Slipstream │Redshift

inqb8tr

LOL - so your actor is ridding himself of those moire shirts?! ;-)

:))

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moon trial 5 quick test outside - 120Mbps for a street scene! Its down to how much detail @T1000

@rajamalik LOL - so your actor is ridding himself of those moire shirts?! ;-) Project looks promising.

rajamalik

Moon trial 5

GravitateMediaGroup

@T1000

I guess it depends on how much detail is shot in each clip.

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Help! Ok I'm using Moon Trial 5 and have set the bitrate in 1080 24p H to 151mbps. I've recorded multiple files and am using the program Videospec to view the MTS video specs. Each MTS file displays a different bitrate. mostly 50-60's and not 151. And then it shows that the max bitrate is 149mbps when I set it to 151. I'm new to the hacking so if I'm missing something correct me. Attached are two screen shots of what I see. Thanks!

vpetero

Screen capture on moon trial 3 smooth -2,-2,0,-2. I seem to prefer T3 to T5

dado023

@zsero

i am aware of difference between MB and Mb. Would you be so kind and point out where did i mix up those two.

zsero

@dado023, you are mixing mega BYTES per second (MB/s) with mega BITS per second (mbps). Card is in MB, the camera is in mbit. 1 MB = 8 mbit.

dado023

did anyone tried x264.exe 64bit 10bit-depth version?

dado023

@driftwood

"@dado023 Ive set max bitrate for a reason to 147000000 It will never use that amount. Its just to set up a high buffer. Don't worry all is good. Use streamparser found on personal-view for viewing your streams/mts files :-)"

thanks for clearing that up :D

Manu4Vendetta

The theme of the cards has to do with the patch, but I think the problem of SD 45MB/s was with earlier cards. I have several and use without problems with Sanity 5.

cjdincer

@manu4vendetta Nothing wrong with the settings. Some of the 45mbs sandisk cards may cause problems. this has been talked over in previous pages if you take your time and read them; you'd see. We are getting out of topic as we discuss this card issue. and also it is adviced that we use 95mbs cards, cause these are mostly high bitrate settings.

dgf

Shooted an entire music event with Slipstream 2 at 24fp. Great performance of the hack. Spanning no problem, play on camera, perfect. I´m still checking the footage, but it looks really good with the condition of the shoot.

I still love some of the old Hacks (Sedna, CM or Intravenus) but the new Cluster X are maybe the final evolution of the GH2 hacking. I hope I´m wrong, because Nick is making to be an GH2 owner so much fun.

I will post some stills as soon as I can.

I will use Slipstream 3 this weekend, let´s see!

Manu4Vendetta

@cjdincer, Why do you say, is unstable with 45MB/s card?

Alex_K

Which one is better for this kind of scene (high iso +dynamic lighting)? Moon or Spizz?

driftwood

@dado023 Ive set max bitrate for a reason to 147000000 It will never use that amount. Its just to set up a high buffer. Don't worry all is good. Use streamparser found on personal-view for viewing your streams/mts files :-)

dado023

i did a test with 2/15 GOP 'DREWnet' - Traditional Long GOP 12 (PAL) / 15 (NTSC) It says this: *82Mbps Low detail to 88Mbps Hi Detail 1080p24 * , and everything works ok, but i am little confused.

I have examined seta.ini file and found a line with Video Bitrate 24H=147000000 .....147Mbps, right? The thing is the video is recorded without any problems, but my SD card should not be fast enough for actuall 169Mbps as you can see in the picture below, so i don't understand how is it possible to record when bitrate peaks over the limits....look here: http://i.imgur.com/7itU48a.png

Can someone shed some light on my confusion. :\

cjdincer

@manu4vendetta I stopped using my 45mbs sandisk. try to stay away from those ones. planning to buy 95mbs ones

Manu4Vendetta

Moon or another great patch Cluster X work with SD 45MB/s @ 16gb?

cjdincer

@mirrorkisser hi I am not the expert here, but to my eyes moonT5 is sharper than T3 and Slipstream 3. I maybe wrong in the sense of judging the matrices. that's why I wrote I wish I have more bodies to make a side by side test. I think @driftwood knows the best and really whats going on inside the cam and also the end results according to the settings. and as you said we're dealing w/ slight differences between X series variations.

Mirrorkisser

@driftwood: Thanks for your answer. As i dont own a gh3 i cant really tell if the new matrix is any better or where its different. For people like me, who just use a gh2, do you see any benefit in using slipstream 3 over moon 3 or 5? Thanks a lot old bean!

driftwood

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Cluster X 'REDshift'Version 1b (Released 29/05/2013)

A classic 12/15 Long GOP combination designed for longer recording times and lower bitrates whilst offering superior quantisation over stock settings and for most pictures. Passes death charts needs checking for spanning. Should work on most cards. Version 1 has been adjusted slightly for a Q16 rate control and 720p modes tweaked: now footage should playback in-camera for all modes.

Drawn from its big brother DREWnet, REDshift offers;-

1080p24 50Mbps sustained on detailed shots
1080i60/HBR30p = 38-40Mbps sustained on most shots.
1080i50/HBR25p = 40Mbps sustained on most shots.
720p50/60 = 40-45Mbps sustained on most detail shots.

Test away!

driftwood

Cluster X 'Slipstream'

A series of GOP combination settings drawn from the Cluster X series but set at nominal bitrate settings (40 to 72Mbps) to achieve a better spanning percentage for longer recordings plus the ability to be used on slower sd cards. Slipstream attempts to correlate the actual clip duration to the TS (transport stream) duration whilst providing error free population of the cpb buffers. And it seems to work very well at these settings. :-)

Slipstream #1: (Rev B): Release Date: 10/03/2013

A mix of Nebula and DREWnet settings all tightly packed into 72Mbps max 24p and around 40-52Mbps for everything else which in my PAL tests SPAN! You also get 80% mode at 24H and iA modes working. NTSC 720p60 and FSH/HBR30p should now span.

1080p24/1080i50/HBR25p/720p50 at GOP 6 1080i60/HBR30p & 720p60 at 12 GOP

Slipstream #2: Release Date: 10/03/2013

Including;-

1080p24H 88Mbps GOP3

FSH1080i50/HBR25p 60Mbps GOP3

720p50 62Mbps GOP6

FSH1080i60/HBR30p 44Mbps GOP12

720p60 52Mbps GOP12

Slipstream #3: Release Date: 15/03/2013

Including THE GH3 MATRIX ON ALL REC MODES;-

1080p24H 150Mbps GOP1 (moon style)

FSH1080i50/HBR25p 70Mbps GOP1

720p50 62Mbps GOP6

FSH1080i60/HBR30p 64Mbps GOP3

720p60 52Mbps GOP12

NB: Ive had one occasion where the camera just freezes with no apparent error. If this happens simply leave the camera alone for a minute or two until it fully writes out to sdcard (emptying all buffers) THEN turn off/battery pull. Hopefully you will notice that all your spanned files are there on next powerup.

driftwood

12/15 GOP 'DREWnet' T9 - Traditional Long GOP 12 (PAL) / 15 (NTSC)

Update News (Monday 22nd July) DREWnet T9 released today. Including the findings of moon T7 (read above) You'll get a QP of 1 throughout many less busy pictures but most pictures will resolve sub QP of 10. Death charts code at a quant of around 15-16 average!

Superior Quantisation
80Mbps constant in 24p modes for exceptional quality.
1080i/FSH Maybe only around 40Mbps but the quantisation and PSNR is brilliant!
720p modes Just the best there is.
iA and iDynamic modes simply work!
MJPEG mode - best available (like moon)
Per Lichtman stunning audio resolution.

To download Click on the file icon link below labeled 'DREWnet T9.zip'

Update News:Today (Saturday 3rd March) Trial 8 released with more adjustments to 24H matrix to improve P/B frame sizes and 80% mode working in 24H.

FSH & 720p modes plus iA (intelligent Auto) modes stabilised and working. Same QP10 Rate Control - Amazing quality as Trial 6 on 1080p24 - Defeats the GH3's IPB modes. :-) We are very nearly there on 12/15 Long GOP (as far as we can go)

Cluster X Series: 12/15 GOP - 'DREWnet' Trial 8 - Released 03/03/2013

MEGA QUANTISATION! QP10

Hi Settings Rip up and start again! Inspired by the GH3 we redesign the matrix and scale it across IPB frames to spread the bitrate evenly and create very low quantisation. This isnt so hungry on your precious sd cards but its quanted like the GH3 and looks very good. :-)

82Mbps Low detail to 88Mbps Hi Detail 1080p24 - This is an insane setting - equivalent to over 240Mbps Intra but using less memory (88Mbps tops). Most pictures will quantise to an incredible low value of Q8-16 - comparable and better than the GH3. !!!
50+Mbps 720p modes on high detail/38-40Mbps Hi detail 1080i/HBR modes - These settings are the equivalent of 80-100Mbps short GOP and are very good - best i frame sizes yet on 720/HBR/FSH.
Hi Settings 1080p24 80Mbps Hi detail 720p50/60 50+Mbps Hi detail 1080iFSH/HBR 38-40Mbps Hi detail
Low Settings 1080p24L 60 Mbps All other modes 36Mbps

Earlier DREWnet trials can be found on the Cluster X Series 1 thread.

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Cluster X 'REDshift'Version 1b (Released 29/05/2013)

Cluster X 'Slipstream'

Slipstream #1: (Rev B): Release Date: 10/03/2013

Slipstream #2: Release Date: 10/03/2013

Slipstream #3: Release Date: 15/03/2013

12/15 GOP 'DREWnet' T9 - Traditional Long GOP 12 (PAL) / 15 (NTSC)

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