@apefos Great song! Love it big time!

@apefos "(but I need the truth!)" Aren't we all? ;-)

The horizontal pattern noise is there, you can see it in the blacks here @ 100 ISO http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com.br&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/579/470/html/81.jpg.html&usg=ALkJrhhUAAblm8Q-Eb7nQFi2vEBMPrZtSQ if you push the exposure enough. It doesn't look as bad as Canon vertical noise so far. Looking at te histogram the noise is deep in blacks and goes away by slightly lifting them.

Banding/posterization if it's there would be due to the 8bit codec, recording 10bit prores externally could remedy any banding. Even the 1DC has banding. The horizontal pattern noise is a sensor issue.

Lets try to stay focussed on the facts yeah?

Check the manual pp 86-88 picture profiles http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/dslr/D5200RM_EN.pdf

@apefos It was actually Samuel who put me onto the D5200 when he mentioned it in a post last week, it flew under my radar for a month! I did some pixel peeping and was blown away. I started my film career with a D90 so it's like returning to an old friend.

My camera is in a warehouse 30min away but I'm "waiting for payment to process". grrr.

I've put together a 2 camera rig for the D5200 and the MKIII. The D800 comparison test is interesting but it's only a true high ISO test if you're shooting everything @ infinity. I'll be testing the cameras with aperture set to match DOF and ISO set accordingly. I wanna know how it does shooting narrative not landscapes.

Rockwell's advice is a bit hit and miss, this is the guy who doesn't think the D5200 is worth upgrading to!

You can apply custom curves. http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Learn-And-Explore/Article/gu5zwt9w/picture-controls-step-by-step.html http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/16557/~/modifying-picture-controls-and-saving-them-to-your-camera.

@Craftwerk This is why I will NEVER upload any tests I do. If I do the tests for my own interest and find something worth mentioning I will report it as a written post based on my own judgement. If someone's interested I assume they will follow it up for themselves with their own specific tests.

Particularly for a cheap camera like the D5200 if someone is serious they can borrow test/buy the fucking camera themselves and make up their own minds instead of bleating on the forums...

@GH2UW It is easy to see when a test is true, I know when I can trust a test. I got all my gear seeing web tests and no sorriness so far. Do not be afraid showing tests. Easy way is upload footage straight from camera so nobody can tell you did any mistake. But some edited footage can be trusted also, just watch Samuel Flaat profiles edited tests and you will see there is no way to distrust it.

Maybe sometimes it can be some codec issues, light situation issues, and so on... but for me, it is no problem because I know how to deal with the limitations of the tests.

I used a strong talking just to provoke, because I found to lift the shadows that way from a total chushed to black into a green foliage was impossible. You need to be an experimented person to find if a test is reliable or not.

Sometimes someone have a good willing to do a test, but not enough knowledge, so some mistakes can happen. I am not judging people intention, just evaluating the results.

When I used a strong talking I was doing some king of a "Devil's Advocate" behavior to provoke all people into the problem. It was an intentional "fuel to the fire" action.

I hope you all do not dislike me due to that.

@Craftwerk I already have downloaded all your new unedited footage and none of them shows any problem for me. I do not see any banding problem.

So due to this I was thinking the previous banding problem you found before these new unedited footage was some kind of mistake you did.

All new footage from you looks great in my full hd monitor and denoise great.

Edit post: when I say new footage I mean the unedited footage you uploaded.

@Craftwerk did you do a new upload or a replace in that video? Please send me the link, I will download and take a look.

@apefos

BTW, here is a link to a Dutch site where they talk about the noise and dynamic range of the D5200. Very interesting, they have a few samples to show how much can be pulled out of the high lights, amazing! http://www.digifotopro.nl/content/test-toshiba-24-megapixelsensor-in-de-nikon-d5200

@mojo43 Hi mojo, remember that you had a discussion on a forum about aliasing problems with the D5100? Someone told you there how you can use a AA Avisynth script to get rid of these artifacts, and I used it on my own footage and it really made my videos super smooth. The script also worked as some sort of denoiser.

@squig Amazing! No aliasing present! And look how natural that color rendition is. Glad I stayed with Nikon and upgraded from D5100.