Ebay deal: "2-15 kg", PV deal "7-15 kg"

Just use logic. This thing uses springs, so all this 2-15kg is bullshit really. If you use big rig you need different springs (in this ase ones that work up to 15kg), period.

In original statement they list 2-15kg, but I really advise you use proper arm for proper weight. Just check Wondlan leopard 2 editions. They have much more true statements.

@fetzu I am using the dual arm cuz it wobbles less in my opinion.

I own a WONDLAN stabiliser and have been snooping around for a good/cheap vest for some time now.

The Leopard (not the "single arm" version) looks pretty expensive.. I also stumbled upon a Chinese brand called "CAME" (nope, I'm not making this up), selling Vest+Arm+Stab packages for just under 700$. They claim it can hold up to 7kg, and I like the idea of having 15mm rods integrated in the stabiliser.. but judging from the photographs the quality doesn't seem to be on par with the WONDLAN stuff. Anybody ever had any experiences with that brand?

@Tobsen: Are you using the Leopard "single arm" or "dual arm" vest?

I adjusted my comment.

I can't find a price for the Wondlan Leopard, anybody know?

@Tobsen

Big thanks for feedback.

What do you think about making short video to show advantages of vest and arm contrary just holding stabilizer?

I mean, for beginners. As it is most frequently asked question.

Is the given "max. camera weight" limited by the gimball/ball bearing or by the arm/spring? (As the bearing on my rig isn't the limit, as it can take more than 50kg without any problem.)

Usually it is toughter constructions, and, of course, springs are different.

How comfortable are this vests for tall people (about 1,90m)?

They are adjustable, so I see no problems.

Which vest+arm combination would you recommend for a very heavy rig (7-10kg)?

I do not use this specific vests, so can't recommend any. :-)

Is there a big difference between the big versions from Wondlan and Laing quality wise?

Big Wondlan version is Deluxe one, not on deals now. It is pricey. Lowest ebay that I see is $2665.

I ordered a Wondlan Leopard II Standard kit two weeks ago (upgraded two days later, which I will explain under cons). I am very impressed with what you get for your money!

Pros:

• The case is great! It got wheels and an extendable handle which makes transport very convenient.

• High quality stabilizer, good bearing, easy to balance.

• Nice arm.

• Very comfortable vest. fits well (in my case) and is well padded for normal use.

• Easy to mount monitor.

• Easy to mount v-batteries.

Cons:

• The screws, especially the plastic levers and knobs on them, are quite bad. EDIT: on the stabilizer only.

• Screw that holds the gimbal sucks in my opinion. A twist-and-lock like on some tripods would be better.

• Adjusting the arms horizontally and tilt (I hope that is the proper word) is a bit fiddly.

• Minor: You can't put a rigged steadicam in the case - it all has to be dismounted like with most systems.

• Cables have to run on the outside. I hate that so I upgraded to the deluxe version, which makes it MUCH easier, because it got HDMI, BNC and AC plugs beneath the camera plate and loose ends on the bottom.

• EDIT: The supplied stand, which is more like a free goodie in the kit is garbage. It doesn't hold the weight of my setup.

But most importantly: it works well and it is a fast system! I just attended a steadicam workshop where I had the chance to compare the Wondlan system with the counterparts from GLidecam and Flycam and also the very expensive systems from ABC Products (MovieTech AG). Honestly, I thought it was better than Glidecam and Flycam. ABC was a different league regarding build quality (which is superb!) and details (screws, cable system, monitor bracket), but it takes much more time to assemble and balance such a system. The Wondlan, on the other hand, is a quick and easy system that "flies" very well.

I hope my first impressions help people that are not sure whether or not to buy this system.

@GravitateMediaGroup

This is topic about various chinese produced vests and arms for them.

From top post. Glidecam or Steadicam brands are not for this topic.

Men Bo CY-008

One of the cheapest offers (one on ebay that I found is $359+105)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/menbo-cy-008-steadicam-Stabilizer-Steadycam-CHRISTMAS-SALE-/290829509355

Did not find any really good words for it. It seems that it needs heavy modification and checking for good work.