Canon 70D topic, camera with unusual LV AF and sensor

MikeLinn

70D manual - http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/5/0300011965/01/eos70d-im-en.pdf

MikeLinn

oscillian

Lets see when we get some good samples... Moire and aliasing, anyone?

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Laboratory test images at http://www.optyczne.pl/6029-nowo%C5%9B%C4%87-Canon_EOS_70D_-_zdj%C4%99cia_przyk%C5%82adowe.html

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Interview with AF developers at

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/app/pdfs/articles/Canon_Developers_Interview_nonfacing_pressquality.pdf

kurth

MikeLinn

kurth

At present time there is not much to rave about the video quality coming out of that sample 70D camera. Images are extremely soft, a bit noisy and moire and aliasing are everywhere.

http://www.cinema5d.com/?p=20218

MikeLinn

JuMo

Interesting, but the line that really concerned me was: "When the image or video clip is being captured, the CMOS sensor behaves as it always has with EOS SLR cameras, unimpeded by the dual photodiodes and recording each individual pixel with virtually no loss of detail or sharpness."

When a marketing team using a phrase like 'virtually no loss of detail or sharpness' it makes me pause. I left Canon a couple years back because the image softness in video was starting be get to me and by the sounds of it, this camera is taking a step back in image quality in favor of more funtional automatic operations (maybe good for consumers, not so good for professionals - appearing to be yet another example of Canon's IQ cripple strategy to justify their grossly overpriced cinema line). ML RAW put Canon back on my radar 100x more that this announcement.

I thought I'd always have a bit of a soft spot in my heart for Canon, since they quite accidentally pioneered a DSLR film maker revolution, but now I'm finding that soft spot is turning hard.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

maybe good for consumers, not so good for professionals - appearing to be yet another example of Canon's IQ cripple strategy to justify their grossly overpriced cinema line

It has nothing to do with cripple. It is just not so good developers and lack of attention.

Renovatio

What a Rolling shutter...

danyyyel

Look at the comment of Johnnie Behiri in the article http://www.cinema5d.com/?p=20218

At present time there is not much to rave about the video quality coming out of that sample 70D camera. Images are extremely soft, a bit noisy and moire and aliasing are everywhere.

So it seems that Canon has made everything to protect its higher end cameras. Lets give them a very good Af, but no earphone jack and leave the aliasing and moire in. This sensor will be at the base of the apsc Canon line for the next 3 years. If I was a Canon dslr video shooter and that I cannot invest at least in the 5dmark 3 (Because of the hack) and C100 price, I would sell all my gear and go to another brand.

JuMo

Vitaliy, I might have agreed with you a year ago, but I don't think so anymore. Now, knowing what the cameras are potentially capable of (and knowing that Canon developers know that we know), I fully believe they are purposefully crippling the video mode so as not to compete with their cine line. Though I believe that the apparently worse video in 70D is not intentionally worse than say the 60D, it looks like a side effect of the new approach. So I agree that is likely a result of the 'not so good developers' as you put it - but as for the overall Canon strategy in regards to HD video quality... well, I leave that decision up to you all, but I know where I stand. Whether or not it's true, the public's perception on this matter remains equally important.