@bkmcwd

Since "auto-quantisation" works correctly only in LongGOP according to Chris, I am not going to use it for 3GOP settings. These are only my personal views.

That's an interesting point. if I understand this correct it's not clear that SPIZZ (as a 3-GOP setting) uses this variable quantisation. So in the end it is just the different matrix driftweood uses in SPIZZ what makes a difference to GOLGOP3-13 or Valkyrie

I think that GOLGOP3-13-2 was completed in the BETA6.

I'm glad to know that the final version is near, but in my high-stress-test (ex-Tele on, auto-iris on, iDynamic on, cont. autofocus on) spanning does not work reliable. I know, noone uses so many automatic functions at the same time in real life, but for that it is a high-stress-test.

I tested the 1080i50 FSH mode, I will do a test in PAL HBR, too. What do you think, should we try to make GOLGOP3-13 'rock solid' in this mode or would it be better to say, it's finished now. For example FlowMotion (which isn't continued anymore) doesn't span reliable in my test, too - but nevertheless LPowls said it's development is finished. I can understand this attitude, one thing cannot be in beta status forever.

@thomisus

What's the main difference between golgop3-13 and spizz?

@Mirrorkisser

valkyrie is the best 3gop setting out there

I like (and use) all 3 settings. In general use Spizz produces the lowest QP on identical scenes in HBR/25p mode. Attachment 1 shows Streamparser's JM-SP Decoder analysis of Spizz, Valkyrie444 and GOLGOP3; scene = high contrast stress chart. Attachment 2 shows Streamparser's JM-SP Decoder analysis of Spizz and Valkyrie444; scene = bright outdoor daylight scene.

Only in low key scenes with little detail to resolve (for instance low light scenes with narrow DOF) GOLGOP3 produces a lower QP (13) than Spizz (16). In low key scenes GOLGOP3 also produces higher bitrates than Spizz and/or Valkyrie. Attachment 3 shows Streamparser's JM-SP Decoder analysis of Spizz; scene = low key, narrow DOF. Unfortunately I don't have comparable scenes of GOLGOP3 and Valkyrie at hand right now … but for GOLGOP3 JM-SP Decoder would show 13 and for Valkyrie it would show 18 (with comparable low "Range" and "DC" values).

Technically, looking at the benchmarks, of the 3 settings Spizz should be the best all around setting in HBR/25 mode. GOLGOP3 is the best for low light scenes … although GOLGOP3 may also show more color noise sometimes (so it requires some more post work). Then again Valkyrie shows the smoothest motion in 25p (at least a little bit smoother than Spizz … I haven't had the time to test the latest GOLGOP3 thoroughly yet)… and, yes, I also like the look of Valkyrie very much.

You can't go wrong with either of the settings in HBR/25p mode … all 3 are really good.

@spreeni i prefer the the 444 Matrix.

@towi i shoot in 24p almost 95% of the time. I simply prefer the gradation of valkyrie compared to the other 3 gop settings. Low QP is nice, especially on the paper, but in my opinion its not everything that defines a good picture. In the below 1000$ market i think its often the gradation that keeps footage from looking to videoish.

Still the clusterX settings are superb. I really like intramovement, IntraVenus is marvellous, too bad its not so good for wide and superdetailed shots. Moon 3 is so far my favourite allround intra setting.

@Mirrorkisser

i shoot in 24p almost 95% of the time

I understood @thomisus' question was about HBR/25p ...

@spreeni

Isn't a 3-GOP setting for 50 interlaced pictures per second always better than 6-GOPs?

Always? I think it depends on the respective setting ("patch"). I feel motion (and also noise) in 25p mode looks a little bit better with 3GOP (from Valkyrie, Spizz, GOLGOP, FlowMotion) than with a longer GOP setting. On the other hand Nebula produces somewhat higher IQ on well lit scenes (the image looks a little bit clearer and maybe also sharper) and since you'll never have trouble with motion in 50i I would prefer the higher IQ. (Higher IQ is also helpful when you shoot 50i to render 50% slomo in a 25p timeline.) Then again ... we are talking about minor differences... IMO.

Hi mate @towi

Now, since I am in the hospital, I cannot write in detail, but even if I see the result of your test, I do not necessarily think that Spizz is the best. It is because the lowness of qp is not top priority for me.

I think that the opinion of @Mirrorkisser also resembles me.

Of course, I do not deny your opinion. However, for some persons, since there are opinions various otherwise, even when Valkyrie and GOLGOP3-13 are the best, I am not surprised.

Spizz for me is considered to be a hybrid concept as already stated. It is because the matrix is scattering for every recording mode. Of course, I also support this concept. :-)

@bkmcwd: I hope you are better soon m8! Get well quickly! :)

@bkmcwd. Dude get well soon.. Patches are one thing but your health is all that matters.

@bkmcwd Aashay said it right, get well soon! PM me for further PAL testings if you're right back again.

@thomisus No, everything's fine with your cam. I think you're using Adobe CS6, right? Look here: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6094/diagonal-rain-appears-using-gh2-premiere-pro-cs6-without-a-hack/p1

Hi Everyone. I am new to this forum so please excuse my dropping in. I'm not sure who to approach with my questions. I recently got a job on a feature film. They have given me the GH2 to shoot on. I have been reading your threads for weeks now. Basically I heard their is a 2k hack available? is this true? The film I am shooting is for a small indie cinema release, I would need to shoot PAL 25p and the edit will be done in avid. I was wondering what the best hack would be for a cinema quality film. Its low budget, so low light would be key. Is there a stable hack that can shoot slow motion @50fps and 25p and handle low light? with any hack would external monitoring still be available? I read up on your thread about the sanity 5.5 hack, does this only allow interlaced or could I still shoot in 25p? I hope I'm not intruding but I would appreciate your input. thank you in advance.

Thank you @Aashay for your help, I'm new to DSLR realm, used to shooting on film so Its rather intense. Here in south Africa there are so few people that shoot on the Panasonic GH's , Canon tends to dominate the market. I thank you kindly for your wise words, It means a great deal to me. Thank you

Here's a test shoot I Did using the latest Valkyrie 444 settings. I am absolutely loving this one. The colour is amazing, best so far.