@Vitaliy_Kiselev One of my favorite books on film-making is by Andrei Tarkovsky, "Sculpting in Time". (You're fortunate you can read original) He talks about getting an emotional feeling that is true to you, but often does not give the viewer the same feeling. What can one do? It is the main problem of film-making. What is interesting to you, in people or content, may not be interesting to me, and visa-versa. So how do you get me to have the same feeling you have? How do I get you to experience the same feelings I have?

You're right in that content is what will give you an emotional response. All I can say is that I have shot some stuff in RAW that gives me a different emotional response I have gotten from the same content, as shot with a camcorder or camera. For you to think I'm bragging about getting a film-look, or to think I'm interested in a flame-war, is misguided.

Very few people understood Tarkovsky. Why? I'm not trying to get "film-like". That's just the way I'm trying to explain it. I'm trying to get a look that expresses how I feel. But I feel you writing my questions off as if I'm pro RAW, or anti camcorder, or anything else.

One of my favorite cameras now (thanks to you) is a GF3 and with Fujian TV lens. Why? Because it give me a certain feeling. I love the look. I don't care about it's megapixels, bitrate, etc. RAW gives me another emotional feeling I can't get from other cameras. Because you can get the most out of the Panasonic cameras I'm naturally curious to know if you can get the same look.

Again, because I like it. Not because it is better. There is no better.

One of my favorite cameras now (thanks to you) is a GF3 and with Fujian TV lens. Why? Because it give me a certain feeling. I love the look.

@maxotics Maybe you might try to focus more on lenses than in cameras. I know what are you talking about - one day I've shoot a live performance here from a DJ (Mix Master Mike, the Beastie Boys DJ - info for the music guys :) ) with my GH2, with two different lenses - the Panny 20mm 1.7 and the Canon FD 50mm 1.4 (in 2.0). The settings were the same for both.

The Panny shot were perfect - excellent exposure, sharp as hell (as usual with that lens), was really very good. With the FD 50mm...not as sharp, a different point of view (I was in the same point, the it came a close shot), not as focused since I have to do it manually. But I've preferred the FD shot a lot more - more organic, more filmic (and both shots were in 24p).

Cameras are important, but a lot of character from a shot are obtained from the lens (people, could correct me if I'm wrong). And grading - maybe @shian and the other grading experts here could give you some hints.

And I have a Fujian 35mm too - hate it for photos, but made some lovely movie shots with it. :)

One way to make a video is to buy a dozen camcorders and set them to face recognition. Use a couple of hacked GH2 as well. You can do it with all GH2/3 but it does not work as well. The only hurdle left is sooth, silent zooming and tracking, in an inexpensive, lightweight package with good low light. As soon as they do that, there will be no reason to get a camcorder. Until then, the Canon Pro CMOS M4xx series used for say $200 is hard to beat (not the newer ones where they "removed" the Pro sensor). Of course, that is only one way to make a video. You can just use one cam, and rely on your artistry. Looking forward to 4K camcorders. @MarcioK most professionals that I have met will talk about anything if you buy them a few drinks.

@maxotics Agreed. My M41 does 24p with 1/24 shutter, and allows lowering of contrast, saturation and exposure to make grading easier in post...