@redgamma That's what I'm wondering too... what kind of infrastructure and framework is in place at Kickstarter for when one of these things goes horribly wrong and people are upset? They'd better figure it out quick, because I'm sure this isn't the first Kickstarter project that will over-promise and under-deliver.

Edit: @VK damn. The amount of bad press they get on the internet when one of these blows up and people are left with nothing is going to be potentially crippling.

The amount of bad press they get on the internet when one of these blows up and people are left with nothing is going to be potentially crippling.

My prediction is not that they'll be left with nothing.
They'll be left with constantly shifting dates after this they could get brick with Ethernet or USB 3.0 port and without any proprietary functioning software.

@redgamma i dont think they going to flee ... some people will be upset but thats minority ... when u establish hardcore fun base than u can get away with pretty much anything. redone example .... they beat dead line for few years and all the time funs cheer them up . in 5 months they going do same thing call for sympathy bust the hope and hype... try to sell t shirt hats and bags to fund camera production ... (cute girl and guy with cool hat c'mon u must trust them ) in best case people will get their camera in 1.5 to 2 years (probably not what they expect)

in some forum post some guy sad if we can fund wall street we must fund this young people :)

@Rambo

I do not like this new post, as it is more emotions, not facts.
I also do not understand how it can be unusual for guys to contact people who asked some questions.
All the comments make very little sense. As constantly mentioning something about 444 color rendering in RAW camera.

We also again hear about this "partners" (see information from whois above proving that they are owned by the same guys).

hey guys - ok I know this whole deal sounds too good to be true, but just do a little research and you'll see it's completely feasible. I took a look at kodak's ccd sensors, and of course they're industrial/medical/vision related chips, which come with a supporting board and software - all you have to do, is buy it, slap it inside a case, make some audio capture hardware and plug in an lcd - it's not that hard - it's all off the shelf components:

http://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Support_Hardware.htm

They will probably use the truesense imaging IT-CCD hardware. Basically, this bolex is going to be a kodak kit, with some modifications. The kit already has mounts for the lenses, and already works plugged into a computer.

The hardest part is the firmware of the camera, which they are outsourcing.

This is my educated guess. Also, if you are worried then just wait and see what happens. They are definitely not going to make this from the ground up - they are just going to buy some parts, put them together, slap them in a case and sell it to you. For me, the cup is half full!! Let's hope they make it. And then let's hope we can hack it as well. ~cheers

From the kodak site:

IT-CCD Evaluation Hardware allows the performance of all members of the Truesense Imaging 5.5 micron Interline Transfer CCD Portfolio to be evaluated without the need to develop a new camera design. When combined with Sensor Studio II Software, this hardware provides full sensor control to enable both still and video capture, with support for ROI readout and pixel binning. In addition, custom image test functions can be developed to further evaluate sensor performance.

The Evaluation Hardware consists of three components which are purchased separately: the appropriate Imager Board for the sensor being evaluated, an FPGA Board that drives the imager board, and a Lens Mount Kit that supports C, CS, and F mount lenses and also includes an IR cut-filter for color imaging. Note that all three components are required to evaluate a sensor.

From EOSHD:

EOSHD: Is the raw software and camera firmware being written yet?

Elle: For the raw processing: we’ve talked with a number of software companies and are really excited by the one we’ve chosen to partner with, but we haven’t had the funds (yet) to start programming anything. It looks like we hit $250,000 on Kickstarter, so when the campaign ends we can get started! The firmware is being handled by our manufacturing partners in Canada.

It'll have USB 3.0 port, SD connection to monitor, also small monitor on the unit.

In no way it is related to the boards you mentioned.

Well about the usb3.0 with sd connection, dual cf card slots and the ssd - they will probably use a single board computer with something that will enable the usb 3.0 + the cf card slots and ssd... Hence the huge case they have for the camera. Something like an arm or via board with the usb 3.0 controller already in or added by something like this:

http://www.cypress.com/?id=3526

I'm not an engineer so I can't say for sure what they will use, but everything you need to build it is out there without you having to build anything from scratch. You could build something like this yourself I'm sure. Single board arm computer + some stuff for industrial machine vision + kodak sensor + battery, lcd, audio board = digital bolex?

I understand that the evaluation kit is not meant for production, but if they have an engineer he should be able to design a working board from the example circuits and datasheets, eh? So if there is any circuit to be designed, it will be the board that interfaces with the embedded computer and carries the sensor.

@vitaliy If you read the press release you'll see that starter kit includes a 6kw diesel generator 220v.

I found out who's designing the circuits!!

LOL. I already suggested you to look above. And also look at IENSO site. It looks like they are all companies owned by one guy.

Check out the updates, there's a video from the engineer talking about the partnership with digital bolex

You started to repeat yourself.

And they've just opened up a forum with lots more information:

Absolutely no camera design information is contained in this links, rather than some fantasies.
And funny fact that they do not like the shape of Bauer batteries :-)
Overall, every peace of information I see make picture even more horrible.

Btw, fact that they do not have HDMI output put's an end to speculations about computer board (as all modern board have such feature for exactly $0 extra).

Image codec integration is not an in camera thing for the Digital Bolex, since our stance on this is I want to give you the RAW sensor data as untouched by me as possible. So this means the color space and codec would come from a Bolex Transcoding software

For me it looks like bunch of fantasies. And they change each new day.

according to the first blurb on their forum (regarding sound bit rate): "That is pretty much the industry standard as far as I know, and I haven't researched it yet..."

now, even my 12 year old daughter knows what the standard is for cinema sound (48k 24b), but this supposed industry insider with over a decade of experience doesnt! or hasnt researched it yet or is foolish enough to admit it having promissed delivery of the final product in august!

a lot of marketing BS as a lot of people have noticed.

but the marketing doesnt make sense either! now, is this a camera with a vintage bolex film-look (whatever that is) or a RAW machine with 4:4:4 and 12 stops of DR? it seems they were trying to please every potential backer and have succeeded!

RAW machine with 4:4:4

Again. Raw is raw. It is grayscale, with specific (Bayer) pattern. So, refering to 4:4:4 (as it is YCbCr) is pointless (it is also pointless as many people noticed for normal picture made from such low resolution sensor).

@Siddho

I've read that 16-bit remark too. That's a very sketchy claim and demonstrates naivety. Not cool.