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Canon EOS R5 - Overheating video failure
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  • More info from 43rumors

    • 512GB CFExpress card will fit about 21 min of 8K RAW video footage.
    • NO CROP in 8K30 OR 4K120 verified ✅.
    • No Dual recording video to both cards - huge issue!
    • Running the 8KRAW video for 20 min straight NO HEATING issues whatsoever.
  • I want one

  • A French retailer lists the Canon EOS R5 price at €4,549.

  • It won't have 10bit video in general. It's only in Clog in H265.

    All other picture style settings are H264 8bit. Like with 5DMIV and 1DX M3 they produce a huge of mount of data in all-I codecs which is quite useless because it's only 8bit 422

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Don't forget to say that in all french retailers, the 20% VAT is included, so arand 4000$ without it.

  • Specs

    • FF CMOS sensor 45.0Mp
    • DIGIC X CPU
    • Dual Pixel CMOS AF) Effective Pixels
    • EVF OLED color electronic viewfinder; approx. 5.76 million dots resolution
      • Approx. 0.76x magnification
    • LCD TFT color 3.2" 3:2, only 2.1 million dots
    • Wi-Fi 802.11a/ac/b/g/n, support 5Ghz bands
    • CFexpress card Type B: Card slot
    • Approx. 138 x 97.5 x 88mm
    • Approx. 738g (including battery, SD memory card; without body cap) Approx. 650g (body only; without battery, card or body cap)
  • US prices

    • Canon EOS R5 - $3899
    • Canon EOS R5 w/24-105mm f/4L IS USM - $4999
  • Canon EOS R5 Specifications

    Compatible Lenses

    Canon RF lens group (excluding EF, EF-S and EF-M lenses)
    When using Mount Adapter EF-EOS R: Canon EF or EF-S lenses (excluding EF-M lenses) Lens Mount
    

    Processor

    DIGIC X
    

    Sensor & Image Information

    CMOS sensor (compatible with Dual Pixel CMOS AF) Effective Pixels
    Approx. 45.0 megapixels Sensor Size
    Approx. 36.0 x 24.0mm Pixel Size
    Approx. 4.40 micro m square Total Pixels
    Approx. 47.1 megapixels Aspect Ratio
    3:2 (Horizontal: Vertical) Color Filter System
    RGB primary color filters Low Pass Filter Installed in front of the image sensor, non-detachable.
    Compliant to Design rule for Camera File system 2.0 and Exif 2.3 Image Format
    JPEG, HEIF, RAW (CR3, 14-bit RAW format), C-RAW (Canon original); Movies: ALL-I, IPB, RAW Image Processor
    

    Viewfinder Type

    OLED color electronic viewfinder; approx. 5.76 million dots resolution Coverage
    Approx. 100% vertically and horizontally relative to the shooting image area (with image quality L, at approx. 23mm eyepoint).
    

    Magnification / Angle of View

    Approx. 0.76x / Approx. 35.5 degrees (with 50mm lens at infinity, -1 m) Eye Point
    Approx. 23mm (at -1 m from the eyepiece lens end) Dioptric Adjustment Range
    Approx. -4.0 to + 2.0m Focus Method
    Dual Pixel CMOS AF Shutter Type
    Electronically-controlled focal-plane shutter Electronic first curtain or mechanical shutter Electronic shutter
    

    Shutter Speeds

    When [Mechanical] or [Elec. 1st- curtain] is set: 1/8000-30 sec, bulb When [Electronic] is set: 1/8000-0.5 sec.
    

    X-sync Speed

    Mechanical Shutter: 1/200 sec. Elec. 1st-curtain: 1/250 sec.
    

    Shutter Release

    Soft-touch electromagnetic release Self Timer
    10-sec. delay, 2-sec. delay Monitor Type
    

    LCD Information

    TFT color, liquid-crystal monitor Monitor Size
    3.2-inch (screen aspect ratio of 3:2)
    3.15 in./8.01cm diagonal (2.63 in./6.67cm width, 1.75 in./4.44cm height)
    Approx. 2.1 million dots
    

    EVF Coverage

    Approx. 100% vertically/horizontally Brightness Control
    Manually adjustable to one of seven brightness levels Coating
    Clear View LCD II
    Anti-smudge coating applied.
    Anti-reflection coating not applied.
    

    Interface Languages

    29 (English, German, French, Dutch, Danish, Portuguese, Finnish, Italian, Ukraine, Norwegian, Swedish, Spanish, Greek, Russian, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Vietnamese, Hindi, Romanian, Turkish, Arabic, Thai, Simplified/Traditional Chinese, Korean, Malay, Indonesian, Japanese)
    

    Standards Compliance

    IEEE 802.11a/ac/b/g/n Transmission Method
    DS-SS modulation (IEEE 802.11b)
    OFDM modulation (IEEE 802.11g/n/a/ac) Transition Frequency (Central Frequency)
    2.4 GHz band
    Frequency: 2412 to 2462 MHz
    Channels: 1 to 11 channels
    5 GHz band
    Frequency: 5180 to 5825 MHz
    Channels: 36 to 165 channels Recording Media
    CFexpress card:
    Type B: Card slot
    SD card speed class-compatible.
    

    SD card:

    Compatible with UHS-II
    Eye-Fi cards and Multimedia cards (MMC) are not supported.
    

    Environment

    Working Temperature Range 0 to +40 Degree C
    Working Humidity Range 85% or less
    

    Size & Weight

    Approx. 138 x 97.5 x 88mm
    Approx. 738g (including battery, SD memory card; without body cap) Approx. 650g (body only; without battery, card or body cap)
    

    Source: https://twitter.com/nokishita_c

  • Initial reports point to overheating issues in 4K/120p and a 30 minute time limit in normal 4K and 8K.

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    This is measured at an ambient temperature of 23 degrees. I hear this figure may go down to approximately 10 minutes in hotter conditions or in direct sunlight.

    Once overheated, the EOS R5 can only go for a further 3 minutes in 8K even if left powered off for quite a while – 10 minutes. That’s a lengthy break when you are in full flow on an important paid shoot.

    Even after being completely inactive and turned off for 20 minutes, the camera stops recording 8K after just 8 minutes subsequently once back in action.

    Overheating problem isn’t limited just to 8K

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    https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-has-serious-overheating-issues-in-both-4k-and-8k/

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  • The photographyblog dude can't take a good photo. Never could use a camera. You'd have to buy at least 3 of these to make a day's work.

  • PR

    With anticipation at a fever pitch, Canon U.S.A. Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, is excited to introduce the company’s next generation of full-frame mirrorless cameras – the Canon EOS R5 and EOS R6. These groundbreaking cameras are the result of many years of collecting and listening to feedback from Canon users and are sure to meet the needs and demands of a variety of creators. The EOS R5 is a camera designed for professional applications featuring a new 45-megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor and uncropped 8K video recording up to 29.97 fps. The EOS R6 is geared towards advanced amateurs featuring a 20.1-megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor and 4K video recording up to 59.94 fps. The addition of the EOS R5 and the EOS R6 cameras within the EOS R series lineup further solidifies Canon’s commitment to providing the equipment needed for users to bring their content to the next level.

    Canon is also introducing four RF lenses and two RF lens extenders: The Canon RF100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L IS USM, Canon RF600mm F11 IS STM, Canon RF800mm F11 IS STM, and RF85mm F2 MACRO IS STM lenses. All four new lenses were designed to meet the ever-expanding demands of the skilled creatives who capture amazing imagery using EOS R series cameras, including the new EOS R5 and EOS R6. In addition to the lenses, there are two new RF lens extenders, a 1.4x and a 2x model, allowing for users to take their compatible RF lens focal lengths even farther, and a 13-inch professional printer, the imagePROGRAF PRO-300, to bring photos to life through the power of print.

    “For all of the Canon research and development team members who worked tirelessly on the production of these new products, today marks the culmination of a long journey. For those people looking for the next great tools to work with to expand their creative possibilities, the door is now wide open,” said Tatsuro “Tony” Kano, Executive Vice President and General Manager of Canon U.S.A.’s Imaging Technologies & Communications Group. “The industry has asked for new products that can push their levels of creativity to new heights, and we are confident that the EOS R5 and EOS R6, alongside the new lenses, lens extenders, and the pro printer, will fulfill those needs and more.”

    Canon EOS R5 and EOS R6

    Both the EOS R5 and EOS R6 cameras have the ability to capture the action of a variety of fast-moving subjects with impressive accuracy and speed. When using the mechanical shutter, each can shoot up to 12 fps and up to 20 fps when using the completely silent shutter. Both cameras are the first to be outfitted with Canon's advanced Dual Pixel CMOS AF II which utilizes up to approximately100 percent coverage of the AF area and EOS iTR AF X incorporating AF tracking algorithms using deep learning technology and enhanced readout speed of the CMOS sensor and processing speed thanks to the DIGIC X image processor. The 1,053 automatically selected AF Zones are made even more potent by the ability to detect the human eye, face or head as well as the eye, face or body of animals such as dogs, cats and even birds[i]. Adding to the feature set is the 5-axis In-Body Image Stabilizer, having coordinated control with Optical Image Stabilizer in IS equipped RF lenses. This provides up to 8 stops[ii] of shake correction, a feature that many creators have long asked for from Canon. Both the EOS R5 and R6 cameras come with a new LP-E6NH battery with a higher capacity than the previous model.

    As the new flagship model in the EOS R series lineup, the EOS R5 camera has features that pack a punch for a variety of users who create both still and video content. It has a powerful 45-megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor and is driven by the speedy DIGIC X image processor, giving wide dynamic range as well as boasting an ISO range of 100-51,200 that is expandable up to 102,400[iii]. In a camera full of eye-popping features, one that really stands out is the ability to record uncropped 8K RAW internal video recording up to 29.97 fps and 8K internal video recording up to 29.97 fps in 4:2:2 10-bit Canon Log (H.265)/4:2:2 10-bit HDR PQ (H.265). The camera can also record 4K internal video recording up to 119.88 fps in 4:2:2 10-bit Canon Log (H.265)/4:2:2 10-bit HDR PQ (H.265). External recording in 4K is also available up to 59.94 fps. When in DCI modes, the 8K and 4K video recording is uncropped and Dual Pixel CMOS AF II is available in all 8K and 4K recording modes. Additional features of the EOS R5 camera include:

    • Dual-card slots: 1x CFexpress[iv] and 1x SD UHS-II[v]
    • Built-in 0.5-inch OLED EVF with approximately 5.76 million dots and a 119.88 fps refresh rate[vi]
    • 3.2-inch 2.1 million dots vari-angle LCD touch screen
    • 5GHz/2.4GHz Built-in Wi-Fi®[vii] and Bluetooth[viii] Technology with the ability to utilize the image.canon application, as well as optional WFT-R10A wireless file transmitter with Ethernet support
    • Enhanced operating controls such as rear-dial, multi-controller
    • The ability to voice tag photos and videos
    • Weather, drip and dust sealing on par with the EOS 5D series

    The EOS R6 camera is well-equipped with a host of new features to push the limits of creativity for imaging enthusiasts. The combination of the EOS-1D X Mark III based 20.1-megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor and the DIGIC X image processor produces an ISO range of 100-102,400 and is expandable to 204,800. Internal video recording at 4K is capable up to 59.94 fps or 1080p up to 119.88 fps in 10 bit 4:2:2 Canon Log(H.265) or HDR PQ(H.265). The camera also features a built-in 0.5-inch OLED EVF with approximately 3.69 million dots and a 119.88 fps refresh rate[vi]. Additional features of the EOS R6 camera include:

    • Dual UHS-II SD card slots
    • 3-inch 1.62 million dots vari-angle LCD touch screen
    • 2.4GHz Built-in Wi-Fi®[vii] and Bluetooth Technology[viii] with the ability to utilize the image.canon application
    • Enhanced operating controls such as rear-dial, multi-controller
    • Weather, drip and dust sealing on par with the EOS 6D series

    Battery Accessory

    The optional BG-R10 battery grip accessory will be available for both the EOS R5 and EOS R6 full-frame mirrorless cameras. The BG-R10 accommodates up to two batteries and is compatible with the new LP-E6NH, LP-E6N and LP-E6 batteries. The convenient BG-R10 grip accessory can also improve handling for users while capturing portrait photography.

    Pricing and Availability

    The EOS R5 full-frame mirrorless camera is scheduled to be available at the end of July for an estimated retail price of $3899.00 for the body only and $4999.00 for the R5 and RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM lens kit**.

    The EOS R6 full-frame mirrorless camera is scheduled to be available at the end of August for an estimated retail price of $2499.00 for the body only, $2.899.00 for the R6 and RF 24-105 F4-7.1 IS STM lens kit or $3,599.00 for the R6 and RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM lens kit**.

    The BG-R10 battery grip accessory and WFT-R10A are both scheduled to be available at the end of July for an estimated retail price of $349.99 and $999.99**, respectively.

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  • Canon R5 firmware proposals (as it is issues with preorders)

    Regarding contents under consideration for correspondence with firmware upgrade

    • Full HD 120P recording size support
    • Added low bitrate modes - both RAW and IPB for all resolutions and frame rates
    • Canon Log 3 support

    Canon already started false company on how amazing preorders are with leading bloggers telling this.

    It is expected that preorders are from 30 to 40% of planned values (and they had been released to be 3x less after pandemic).

  • Canon learned some PR tricks from Chinese friends

    Information About Product Supply Status

    We have received orders for the following products announced on July 9, 2020 that exceeded expectations, and it may take some time before the products are delivered.

    Applicable Products - EOS R5 / EOS R6 / Battery Grip BG-R10 / Extender RF 1.4x / Extender RF 2x

    We would like to thank you for all the orders we have received, and we apologize for any inconvenience caused to our customers waiting for the release. Thank you kindly look forward for your understanding.

  • Animal AF

  • Interesting info leak

    One of the Canon managers told to big seller that they had been wastly misled by their ambassadors and testers, as most fo them are stills guys and some video related oned had been busy (coronavirus I guess, as they wanted to survive, so do not cared about some tests and feedback) and not too concerned with camera.

    Hence all the issues with overheating, as all internal circles told Canon that it is ok and no one want good cooling, it is not important.

    After this comes some top managment idea to push camera performance adding few modes to increase sales, without do proper camera cooling redesign and also storage redesign.

    One of the very early R5 prototypes had proper cooling and dual CF slots. Also also had $2500-2999 target retail price with all this (as some internal design had been more modern compared to DLSR style desing, requiring less parts).

  • More detailed official charts

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