Apple MacBook Pro 16, most expensive overheating gadget

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Base system

2.6GHz 6-core i7
3072 x 1920 IPS display, 500nits brightness tops, slimmer bezels means much more broken screens
16GB RAM (around $50 cost to Apple in parts, Apple asks $400 for it)
512GB SSD (around $40 cost to Apple in parts, Apple asks $200 for it)
If you have any issue with SSD, it is impossible to restore data or repair SSD
Radeon Pro 5300M with 4GB GDDR6 (sic!) (around $70 cost to Apple in parts)
Return to old keyboard (aka ones used in other notebooks)
100Wh battery, up to 11 hours of light video watching on low backlight
$2400, only around 2-2.5x of comparable Windows note
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1520434-REG/apple_mvvj2ll_a_16_macbook_pro_late.html

Top system

2.4GHz 8‑core i9
3072 x 1920 IPS display, 500nits brightness tops
64GB RAM (around $200 cost to Apple in parts)
8TB of SSD storage (around $500 cost to Apple in parts)
If you have any issue with SSD, it is impossible to restore data or repair SSD
Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 (around $200 cost to Apple in parts)
Return to old keyboard (aka ones used in other notebooks)
100Wh battery, up to 11 hours of light video watching on low backlight
$6100, at least this one is better and match current Apple smartphones margins

Cooling had been improved, but for top configs it is absolutely not enough with it's single heatpipes for CPU and GPU.
Even much cheaper Xiaomi Notebook Pro this year offers double the cooling with lighter heat output.
Horrible heat design again, Apple!

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

GPUs specs are really weak

AMD Radeon Pro 5000M series mobile GPUs are built upon the all-new AMD RDNA architecture, designed from the ground up. The new GPUs include up to 8 GB of high-speed GDDR6 memory with up to 192 GB/s memory bandwidth - double the bandwidth of GDDR5 - and also deliver up to 4.0 TFLOPS of single-precision floating-point (FP32) performance. The GPUs are optimized for content creation applications and compute-intensive image rendering workloads.

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Return of scissors keyboard (still much inferior to famous Thinkpad keyboard)

Apple still mainly aims to shortest travel possible to advertise thickness of laptop (that has zero value if it is lower than certain quite high value) and do not properly make leak proof construction.

retrospective

Looks like a great update from Apple! I might get one to replace my iMac!

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@retrospective

Get instead any good universal small PC with AMD card and install hackintosh on it.

As this thing will be throttling and will have around 30-40% performance of any normal 8 core PC that is real cheap now.

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Speakers grill is designed and located to maximize chances of water damage.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Adorama providing $100 rebate for this model preorders

https://www.adorama.com/acmvvj2lla.html

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Totally unrepairable construction

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

As told on day one - this thing throttles

Small fun is how she downplays this, as no, not all notebooks throttle.
But to not throttle you need two additional heatpipes and better coolers.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Special - Apple 16" MacBook Pro, i9 2.3GHz, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Radeon 5500M 4GB, Silver, $154 discount

https://www.adorama.com/acmvvm2lla.html?EmailPrice=T

Simpler config - https://www.adorama.com/acmvvl2lla.html?EmailPrice=T

jonpais

I ordered one with 1TB SSD, 8GB GPU, 32GB RAM and 2.3Ghz i9 to use with Asus PA32UCX monitor. Both should arrive by the first week in January.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

MacBook 16" with $350 discount

Code 19CYBERPROG

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/18381129246155810521?psb=1&tbm=shop

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Still some sales of it at B&H

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/macbook-pro-16-2019/ci/45584

eddavid

can you recommend a PC laptop that can be hackintoshed easily?

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@eddavid

Check https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/17719/xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro-macbook-pro-competition#Item_24

Or if you need top power Xiaomi Gaming machines.

Make sure to visit hackintosh resources to check.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

At discount in B&H

2.3 GHz Intel Core i9 8-Core
16GB of 2666 MHz DDR4 RAM | 1TB SSD
16" 3072 x 1920 Retina Display
AMD Radeon Pro 5500M GPU (4GB GDDR6)
$2499 new, $2199 used

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1520435-REG/apple_mvvk2ll_a_16_macbook_pro_late.html

Vitaliy_Kiselev

The latest macOS Catalina 10.15.3 beta build contains references to a new “Pro Mode,” which can be turned on and off by users. Some strings mention that “Apps may run faster, but battery life may decrease and fan noise may increase” and “Fan speed limit overridden” when the Pro Mode is activated.

Idea is to just lift fan limits, so your note will start to sound like rocket during launch.

jonpais

So you’ve got a brand new space grey16″ MacBook Pro with the incredible Magic Keyboard – a huge improvement over the butterfly keyboard of Apple’s previous laptops – and you’ve also patted yourself on the back for applying a screen protector to keep those magical keys from scuffing the Retina display. What’s the very first setting you should change on your laptop? Unsurprisingly, next to no YouTubers are mentioning this, but for those for whom choppy 24p video is the bane of existence, the new MacBook Pro has the answer: customizable refresh rates. You see, unlike 30p, 24p video does not divide evenly into a 60 Hz refresh rate – it leaves twelve frames remaining, introducing judder. So the very first setting you’ll want to change when picking up your MacBook Pro is the refresh rate. Choose the Apple menu > System Preferences, then click Displays. Press and hold the Option key and select the Scaled button. The refresh rate appears. Click the Refresh Rate pop-up menu and choose the refresh rate (48 Hz for 24p, 47.95 Hz for 23.976p).

Vitaliy_Kiselev

i9, 16" 3072x1920, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, $2349

Code - LFPKMV

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/7366896972133139492

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Refurbished ones at Apple

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