@Ironfilm the ibis noise from G85 is very soft, but the GX85 is softer. If you use an IS lens you get two whirrs, of course. You do hear it, but I use it for concert recordings.

@IronFilm you'll definitely notice it while operating the camera coming from a camera without IBIS. Like I said though I've never had it get picked up at least noticeably on a shot even in cases where I had to use scratch audio as the final audio due to technical issues. I would say the IBIS noise definitely "exists", but is not an issue similar I expect to the fan noise on the BMPCC4K.

Ok, I was asking a lot of annoying questions about shooting HDR video with this camera. And guess what? There is a built-in REC2020 HLG 3D LUT! BM now has extended information on its web page, including the camera weight (1.59 lbs). And you can see in one picture this optional LUT in the camera menu.

Blackmagic and BMPCC4K brings out the funniest drama from people:

It is proper BM department job is to invite him. In reality they just don't care.

Agreed about this - BM marketing doesn't care about him and that's why they didn't think to invite him. It's not surprising - if you check his site, when is the last time he even finished a review of a camera? Why should BM care about him? Or any other vendor, for that matter?

A while ago, his site turned into a garbage dump of him giving his opinions on camera news - the closest thing to a review in the last 6 months was him talking about great the 4k crop is on the EOS M because it works well with 16mm glass (3 months after he called the same crop a "middle finger"). The last "review" he did was more than a year ago and as I joked earlier, was talking about a few things with GH5 firmware 2.0 and then saying he would publish a longer review before the weekend which never came.

I believe he is more angry at BM, and John only as being close to them.

He is angry at JB as well because he didn't like the things that JB had to say.

I'm not saying he has no point at all - I'm just saying it's ridiculous to get so angry that there was a meetup in his area that he wasn't invited to. With an attitude like that, if he lived in NYC or LA, he'd spend his entire life angry and full of rage.

I can't see any reason at all to be angry at JB who, as you said, told things exactly as they are and doesn't even work for the company.

It's also somewhat offensive how he keeps talking about giving manufacturers "free advertising" and acting like he runs his site for purely altruistic reasons. He is selling products on his site as well (how-to guides for cameras, mediocre color correction luts, etc) and driving extra traffic is extra marketing for him to sell more of his stuff.

"You can use a metabones adapter to give it a look exactly like a full frame camera or even with the beautiful depth of focus rolloff of a medium format camera. Here's a 2 minute 'film' that I made of walking around my city at night with it. More details and in-depth test shots of some books and toys and rope lights in my living room coming in part 2 of my review..."

(18 months pass, part 2 never comes)

Voldemort is apparently not going to buy one of these now because Black Magic won't give him free stuff and because @johnbrawley didn't kiss his butt. I guess we'll have to miss out on a bunch of bad pseudoscientific review comments about how "cinematic" and/or "filmic" it is. :(

@DrDave

You can't have fanless design with powerful FPGA they use. As it is around 10-30 times les energy efficient compared to custom LSIs big companies use.

Fan noise? Hmmmmmmmm.

@NickBen

Sorry for the delay.

It supports HDR in that it captures a high dynamic range image. How you map that is up to you. But there's nothing formal that I know of that does that as yet.

They have done a new version of what used to be called "Video" which was their REC 709ish LUT. It's now called "extended video" and it's a real improvement when used with the new gen 4 colour science.

The screen is the same screen as used on the Video Assist 5" and the Ursa Mini 4.6K. A good screen, but not a high nit screen for any kind of serious monitoring. I think of it as a touch / menu / interface screen.

There is fan noise, it's not especially loud, on a par with the Ursa Mini. It's a constant fan, like all BMD cameras. Remember they use solid state cooling, not fans to maintain the temperature. Weirdly it vents out the bottom instead of the top of the camera. I find my hand gets warm when holding it underneath. Not uncomfortable, but you notice it.

I didn't try it on a gimbal. I kind of hate them :-) (I own a Ronin 2 and a a Ronin S)

I didn't use the SSD feature.

The rear display uses almost no power, and just like on all BMD cameras, it's always on because it's your status screen.

I've been using the existing screens in other iterations in all the weather situations you mention and it's worked fine for me.

I didn't do any stills, and yes it can do timelapse but I didn't use it for that. I literally had a very short amount of time with it. When I shot with it I believe it was the only "functional" version in the world. It was hand carried and flown to me to use and then taken away :-)

I imagine it will do great green screen, but I didn't use it in this scenario.

It's not technically late yet, whereas RED...

JB

@Vitaliy_Kiselev can you please split off all posts about colour "science" into an extra topic and cleare this one up to be only about the new BMPCC4k?

Cheers

Considering that even the top of the line 30 000$ high end color grading display don't even have the capability to properly display Rec2020 nor reproduce peak brightness necessary for HDR, I don't even know why the heck so many people actually want it in camera. Right now your only option unless you own two 4K laser Christie Projector is to generate a profile LUT to adjust your maximum screen capability to display correctly what it'll look like as a HDR output but you'll never be able to play with full gamut. And yes Vitaliy_Kiselev is right, you do color space transformation even from Rec709 to Rec2020, it all depends of your screen capabilities. The last tendency I've seen that messes up a lot of final output is people rushing to color Grade in P3 on their monitor (Eizo & BenQ to cite the most affordable). It's a huge mistake considering that it first don't display 100% of the gammut but has a gamma response that differs from the actual screen signal. It's far better to grade in RGB Rec709 and do a color space transform to DCI-XYZ, the result will be much more faithful if the display is well calibrated to Rec709.

But if it's a concern, shoot Raw and do your own color management. Footages looks fantastic btw, I'm waiting though to see some report on bug/crash and what that cheap price has to bring forward as a compromise. But just for the fact you might get Resolve studio, it's a very good thing.