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Anamorphic newbie..
  • Hi guys! :)
    I think this is really nice community that is able to help each other..
    I have hackable GH1 .. and I'm preparing for a really large project next month and I think this is the right time for the anamorphic lens for my GH1..
    First .. There are two types of anamorphic lens squeeze, right? 2,0X and 1,5X? .. what is the general output difference here? Like the final aspect ratio?

    And second thing.. I decided to buy a anamorphic lens for my GH1 of the eBay.. and I need some good tips for cheap (you know.. I don't have lot of money as a digital multimedia, motion advertising and motion picture student at this moment) anamorphic lens and also some converter (adapter) (?) to mount it on GH1? I really have no idea how this works.. so maybe you can help me to get started with this stuff.. :-) Basically, I need a great anamorphic setup for a lower price (I really don't have hundreds dollars for this.. you know) for my GH1..

    So maybe this can be a really helpful information for others, with a idea of buying an anamorphic gear for GH1/GH2..

    Thanks everyone in advance!
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  • Not everyone's experience and quite strange to hear yours - he's certainly not a nutter in my several experiences and correspondence with him - but perhaps elucidate more about what happened - not backing him - just v weird as was always a gent with me and others.

  • The cunt deserves all he gets! I am now being harrassed on my private home phone number by the Alan Doyle of Redstan who is abusing my wife and accusing me of stealing from him when this is UNTRUE! The prick says he sent a clamp I bought and IT NEVER TURNED UP so Paypal refunded me and now this cunt abuses me! AVOID HIM LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!

  • For what it's worth, I did a write up on the Panasonic LA7200. It doesn't provide a "quick" setup but I'm not sure anamorphic shooting really calls for speed, it's more precision. I like the LA7200 and chose it for it's price and performance over some of the other offerings at the time I purchased it. I think they go for around $1000 on ebay now.

    http://stronzvanderploeg.net/2012/08/10/anamorphic-shooting-with-the-la7200-part-2/

  • @B3Guy,

    Thank you for taking the time, man. I really appreciate it.

  • @Roy_Batty

    I use the mark on the top of the anamorphic to get close to vertical alignment, but go by eye after that. Rotate the adaptor one way, then another. Watch the live feed and repeat this motion with decreasing magnitude until you reach alignment. You'll see stuff stretch one way, then another. I have a Kowa, and the mark is accurate, I think, but without a reference point, eyeballing the alignment mark on the barrel of the anamorphic only gets you so close.

    Focusing for me takes some back and forth, and some looking at the focus scales. I'm not sure if the focus scales are still accurate with an anamorphic on front of a taking lens versus on a projector, but they seem close-ish. I don't measure, I just guess, "that's about 15' away", then set both the taking and anamorphic lenses to 15'. After this I focus one then the other (usually taking lens first). To my eye, the adapter focuses in one dimension while the taking lens focuses in another (one focuses vertical, the other horizontal). Thus it is possible to have one in focus, with the other still smeared. Focus Assist is your greatest friend with dual-focusing anamorphic setups.

    @P4INKiller

    Glad you got an anamorphic. I was worried too at the time of my first purchase that I'd end up not liking it and would keep buying more anamorphics, but I wouldn't trade the Kowa for anything other than a "single focus" of at least 1.5x squeeze (AKA a Lomo or Iscorama).

    You should think hard about adding a Tokina ATX 0.4x Achromatic Diopter to your setup. My Kowa is already resolving plenty, but with the Tokina, it has some extra "edge". I'd bet it'd work wonders on the Century.

  • Do you guys have any advice for good taking lenses? I'm especially wondering whether the Canon FD 50mm 1.4 would be good, and whether one of the three versions of it is more suitable than the others.

  • @P41NKiller

    That's a great find .. something for those here looking for an easy to use anamorphic. I ended up making my own filter attaching ring from an 77mm extension tube and a 77-72mm step down ring

  • @kavadni

    That's great man. Financially, luck never strikes me; I paid double. Although I should probably mention that it comes with a clamp-on 86mm front filter ring, was that part of the original package?

    Also, something interesting: http://www.tristatecamera.com/product/Century_Precision_Optics_Ds-1609_58_16_9_Widescreen_Adapter_58mm_DS160958.html

  • I have a Century 58mm threaded .. I paid $550 for it new from schneideroptics about a year ago. I got lucky, I went to the site and they had just put the last 8 into a clearance sale.

    I just had a look .. they still have the 37mm threaded variety for $395 https://www.schneideroptics.com/ecommerce/CatalogSearch.aspx?Searchstr=1609&SCID=-1

    I can not advise as to how wide you can go with the 37mm .. I believe it is optically identical to the 58

  • @P4INKiller the 58 mm threaded mount is harder to find than one with a bayonet mount. don't know what you paid, but my bayonet mount Century was about 250 euro... If you paid more than 750 euro than I would say you paid too much IMHO.

  • @P4INKiller when you decide that a lens fits your needs, and you decide what your budget is, then you get the lens from within your budget, the price is right! This is especially true when you are picking up something that doesn't appear very often for sale... another good idea... stop looking now you have chosen, start shooting :) I looked at the century anamorphic myself as it provides a very compact setup!

    Enjoy! :)

  • @matthere

    Just got a mint Century Optics 1.33x with a 58mm threaded mount, but I think I overpaid. What's the going price for these?

  • @P4INKiller I understand where you are coming from.. The anamorphic image can be very seductive, if you want to make your own, it's a good idea to do some vimeo/youtube searches to find some stuff you like the look of, and start searching ebay to find the lens/adapter used to create the vimeo footage. A really good idea to set yourself a budget to work within as this can get expensive. Try and figure out what sort of setup you need for the footage you want, if you need to rack focus on shots you will need an anamorphic adapter that will allow you to, and a lot of them don't.. the anamorphic footage on vimeo will also help you to decide if static footage gives you what you want, if it is, then you might consider the cheaper anamorphic route, where you focus two elements separately, this route can be much cheaper, but as you can imagine setup time and flexibility is compromised.

    It may take a while to get the look that you are after, but these lenses and adapters do come up for grabs on ebay or here on PV marketplace, knowing what you want before parting with your money will help you, of course, asking questions here is always worth a try :)

  • Man, the subject of anamorphic lenses give me a headache. I really want to shoot anamorphic, but I'm having difficulties finding the good stuff.

    And then I read about people who have got a wide array of anamorphic lenses, and they keep picking up more.

  • To anyone who has shot with a 2x anamorphic, can you describe your focusing method?

    Do you simply measure the distance between subject and camera and set both the anamorphic and the taking lens to the same distance? Is there some other way t do it?

    Also, how do you make sure that the orientation of the anamorphic -- the alignment to vertical -- is precise (to prevent blurring and distortion of the image)? Do you go by the marking at the top of the anamorphic or do you go by eye?

  • Hi there,

    Got my adapter a few days ago, started testing with it. I love how it works with the old pentax lenses I have. Seems to work best from F4-F8

    Gear Used: --

    GH2 Cluster v4 driftwood -- pentax-m SMC 50mm 1.7 -- Bell & Howell Kowa anamorphic apdater 2x -- Mattebox -- Polarizer 4x4 -- Graduated filter --

    Here is the result

  • After uninstalling an overkill of video codecs all works well!

    Another question, what lens works best with the Proskar-16A , a 35mm or a 50mm? What would you guys recommend.

  • UPDATE II: Thought I Found it... Thanks Guys, you got me searching in the right direction. It has something to do how my drive was named, Quicktime cannot regonized it. I moved all files to another drive Quicktime plays all files and was able ONCE to import the files in Adobe CS5. After this one try I got the same problem, Adobe shows "Genereting Peak file..." and then crashes. In the QT file info the pixelsize is strange I think [photo 3]:

    propertiesANAM_MOV2.JPG
    277 x 261 - 22K
    propertiesANAM_MOV.JPG
    353 x 325 - 36K
    quicktime MovieInfo.JPG
    365 x 280 - 32K
  • There definitely shouldn't be problem with opening (GH's) motion JEPEG files in CS5. Working fine for me!

  • Mov is just a container. Launch in QuickTime and go to the video inspector, which should tell you what codec it was recorded in. I think it should be MJPEG which CS5 shouldn't have a problem with. What is the error message?

  • Just like MarkV I am also a Anamorphic Newbie , with lots of questions. If there is another Anamorphic topics for beginners or you want me to start a new one, just let me know.

    I have a Proskar-16A 2x and use an anamorpic patch to shoot in mjpeg mode

    My problem, Adobe CS5 will not import the 'anamorphic' files. With other 'normal' .mov files I do not have this problem.

    Hope to hear from one of you.

    Best regards, RawB

  • @soundgh2
    >Alan (Redstan) is on Ebay again
    You're free to post a link to any items for sale :-)
  • Alan (Redstan) is on Ebay again with clamps, diopters etc
  • also guys do you know whats the lenght on the atlantic clamps and redstan??
  • what do you think about the KOWA 16-A?