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Red Hydrogen One Holographic phone .....an expensive toy
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    • 5.7inch 2560 x 1440 pixel "Hydrogen Holographic" Display - seemlessly switches between 2D content (at full screen resolution), holographic multi-view content, stereo 3D content, and interative games, with both landsape and portrait modes.
    • Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 processor
    • 4,500 mAh battery
    • Shoot 3D (and 4V “holographic”) video using the cameras on both sides of the phone, no add-ons required
    • Dual SIM support (or single SIM + a microSD card)
    • Stereo speakers and a headphone jack
    • View 2D/3D VR, AR and MR
    • Runs Android
    • Multi-band smartphone
    • USB-C connection
    • MicroSD slot

    .... when an iphone isn't enough ...the only specs I found...
    It’s an unlocked, multi-band phone that runs Android.
    It supports 2D, 3D, 4-view holographic, and virtual reality, augmented reality, and mixed reality content.
    There’s an algorithm for converting stereo audio into 5.1 channel sound… that can play through regular headphones.
    You can use the phone as a controller and monitor for RED Scarlet, Epic, and Weapon cameras.

    "Priced at at $1195 for the Aluminum version, with a Titanium version that will cost $1595, the HYDROGEN ONE is a stand-alone, full featured, unlocked multi-band smartphone operating on Android OS, but it is more than a smartphone. RED says it is a 5.7” professional HYDROGEN holographic display allowing users to view all traditional 2D content at full screen resolution, view holographic RED Hydrogen 4-View content (H4V), view stereo 3D content and view 2D/3D VR, AR and MR."

    https://www.provideocoalition.com/hydrogen-one-reds-holographic-smartphone/

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  • piece of shit

  • Wow... I wish I had the marketing skills of Red's team. I can't imagine how they're getting people to spend $1200-1600 on a smartphone with basically 0 details about its features!

  • They won't make this bloated whale float from only members at reduser. I'd hoped it would be an action cam....maybe w/1" sensor and their codec. Sadly it's another 3k for 3 grand deal, when 4k is 500 bucks !

  • @kurth

    It is not about toy.

    It is about PR stunt, as it nothing more than PR stunt. Free remainder that Red still alive.
    In last year Red had been pushed hard in the top niche on rental cameras with sales of cheaper ones tanking.

  • @vitaliy well...if that's true , that it's just a pr stunt, then all those folks having their cards charged will get a refund, which I kinda of doubt. Most likely they'll get an overpriced smartphone late in 2018, and wished they' been more prudent.

  • @kurth

    It is good reason why details are so vague.

    The only PR stunt is about screen, as they openly say that all else is cheap phone, just with proprietary connector (it is actually necessary to use it as monitor).

    Also it won't be lot of complains as it will be still usable as small monitor and will work ok for it.

    Most probably we see here 1080p screen with 4 pixels in place of one covered by special lens. It is the reason why they constantly mention 4-way. Actually due to vision physics it has little use.

    Always remember

    With adequate profit, capital is very bold. A certain 10% [profit] will ensure its employment anywhere; 20% certain will produce eagerness; 50%, positive audacity; 100% will make it ready to trample on all human laws; 300%, and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged.

    To survive capital is ready for anything.

  • @vitaliy speaking of 300%, I highly recommend the night manager . Usually profits at that level require government collusion and elites corruption.

  • http://downloads.red.com/hydrogen.pdf

    One of the people who pre-ordered it:

    Marques Brownlee is another person who pre-ordered it. Bought 3 of them. https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/882993642834710529

    Info about the camera:

    "Preferably, the camera includes a capability for capturing still images with various and/or adjustable resolutions and aspect ratios for example but without limitation, as high as 6144×3160 pixels or higher with aspect ratios such as 2:1, 2.4:1, 16:9, etc, and a capability for capturing motion images at resolutions up to about '6K' or higher."

    http://www.definitionmagazine.com/journal/2016/5/7/are-red-making-a-6k-smart-phone-case

  • Heh. That video could be boiled down to "I preordered it because I make software and would like to make my software run on it because I will have a built-in market of people who have $1600 to blow on a phone with nearly no specs disclosed."

  • @PauloTeixeira

    Red specifically stated that smartphone camera will be ordinary and not any better than other.

  • it looks like these resolution numbers are hype for some future camera module that attaches to the phone

  • As it turn out Red has nothing to do with screen (only real difference with other phones)

    Red Digital Cinema, the leading manufacturer of professional digital cinema cameras, and Leia Inc, the leading provider of lightfield holographic display solutions for mobile, announced today a long-term exclusive partnership to bring the world’s first lightfield “holographic” smartphone -- the HYDROGEN ONE -- into the hands of consumers in the first half of 2018.

    The strategic partnership will leverage RED’s expertise in digital content creation and deep connections in the film industry as well as Leia’s proprietary lightfield display technology and software platform to disrupt the world of mobile entertainment. The Hydrogen program will feature stunning holographic content and 3D sound for movie viewing, interactive gaming, social messaging and mixed reality.

    http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170907005038/en/Red-Digital-Cinema-Leia-Announce-Strategic-Partnership

  • Some update

    Display tech

    In 2D mode (normal cell phone) the display is completely as you would expect. 2560x1440 resolution. Fantastic color and brightness.

    Nothing to write home about, actually.

    In 4V mode (holographic), the screen dims a bit and out pops a “better than 3D” image… no glasses needed. There is no way to describe this. You just have to see it. So far, everyone that has seen it gasps, swears or just grins. I wish we had recorded all the reactions. Priceless.

    In normal words - it dims a lot. And what for this mode is? Gimmick like Amazon Fire?

    Multichannel spatial sound… from the phone’s internal stereo speakers or headphones.

    The audio demo has achieved as high of marks as the display tech. Same reactions. Again, no way to describe. You just need to hear it.

    And this is just useless crap. All this talks about "multi-channel" audio is really old and work on imbeciles only.

    Multi-component modular system

    This is all done through our pogo pin system on the back of the phone. It provides power and data in both directions and modules are stackable. Think battery module, cinema grade camera module, and a variety of others.

    Just no modules actually.

    Industrial design

    This works. The scallops make it easier to hold, fish out of your pocket… and looks cool as hell.

    OK, industrial design for rich guys.

    So when can you see it?

    We are showing prototypes now to content producing partners in preparation for the HYDROGEN Network. This will be the one place to find all 4V content online. From major studios and other content providers to creating your own channel.

    We will have a HYDROGEN Day at RED Studios to preview the technology and demonstrate how to become a content provider as well as show to pre-order customers… probably in April.

    Delays, delays.

    Spec update.

    Qualcomm Snapdragon 835x processor. The HYDROGEN One has a headphone jack. And a dual SIM slot. Two phone numbers or one sim and one micro SD card. USB-C.

    Again, pretty ordinary. CPU is already outdated.

    The internal battery is huge. 4500mA. We anticipate these being used a lot for image capture and content play.

    Nothing huge in battery if you know smartphone market.

    What is the resolution in 4V?

    Complex answer. The 4V files match the pixel resolution of a traditional 2D file, which is great for downloading. The resolution perception is just different. The horizontal resolution of 2D is now split into depth layers. It gives a completely different feeling. All the pixels are there… but instead of "looking at” a pic, you are immersed in the image. It is quite spectacular. As a resolution guy, I absolutely prefer watching 4V over 2D.

    So, it is VERY LOW resolution as "horizontal resolution of 2D is now split into depth layers".

  • https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/1/23/16922872/red-hydrogen-one-release-date-summer-2018

    Seems the will ship this summer? (my winter!)

    Interesting new news, as I was recently thinking this would be more vaporware like RED had done in the past.