Personal View Feature Film Collaborative project

lolo

super :), @thepalalias please if you could format the info in a better way i would really appreciate it, i have to leave the computer now, that´s why i ask you, :), cheers!

and we should speak about what is the posible premiere night, to match all the deadlines accordingly

lolo

ADDED
DEADLINES AND GOALS

http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/Deadlines

thepalalias

@lolo I added links to all those pages at the start of the body of the front page. So to get to all of them, you just have to go to http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/ now.

lolo

as everything was moved to the wiki, i´m updating the first post with links to it

lolo

btw i really dislike the idea of making this about bankers, debts, occupation and all that economic stuff...

as it is not a human subject, it ain´t dramatic per se
as i feel in no way related to that
as i get bored with the subject

thepalalias

Thanks @Lolo! That's way more effective than the organization I was starting to try to cobble together. :)

lolo

to continue according to what i have prevously organized

restrictions
http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/restrictions

assets
http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/assets

workflow
http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/workflow

free artistic concepts
http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/free_concepts

storylines and concepts
http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/storylines

davhar

Why not use the global nature of this site to tell a real global story in our own individual way. That is our heroes could use the internet to track down a fictional group of banksters that have screwed us out of billions and are now sitting back and laughing at us. They really think the world is their oyster, as such, and are in for a rude awakening as we discover who they are and where. Soon they'll try to hide from the camera's of those who set out to shame them. There will be no more TV shows like "The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". Now it's become, "Behold the Bastards of the World!"

Segments could be comedy, mystery, thriller or action adventure as the local producers of the global webcast see fit. But obviously the banksters would not be too happy with such an enterprise and so hire some goons to track down our intrepid reporters before they're exposed hiding amongst us or in far away lands around the world…in the pretty places with wonderful views, "enjoying the good life". But they soon realize that there's a cameraman everywhere there's a cellphone…and not everyone is satisfied with taking pretty pictures of friends or making cute little videos cut to music.

When they try to close down his website our local hero goes underground and branches out instead, hooking up with others doing shows on local global issues that are perpetuated by an economic system that is not evolving with us, and our twenty-first century worldviews, but consolidating into a corporate New World Order.

But to keep such a website up and running it has to be non-threatening and non-violent. Indeed it has to promote the better or the worse will win. As well as catching a bad cop in the act a little camera can photograph beauty; it can destroy a reputation or create the art of a new era…and cute little videos cut to music.

Let playfulness be the key.

thepalalias

Okay, I've copied and pasted the first entry to the wiki.

http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/Look_Here_First

thepalalias

@Imaginate It says access denied at this point for me. :)

Imaginate

I was recently involved with a multi-director project with storylines that had to connect - we used this tool. Here is an example of How it can be used to track multiple productions happening at the same time. It might not be the complete solution but it might be used in addition to a wiki. As you can see in the example Media can be embedded right in each node. And gives a great visual representation of who is involved, where they are and what skills they have to offer.

http://www.mindmeister.com/64788573

thepalalias

I just registered a Wiki. I haven't done anything with it yet, but here's the link.

http://moviecollab.wikispot.org/

Reckless

I agree that there needs to vote on ideas because everyone likes their own ideas including myself, it is the only fair way to go about choosing one. As far as people wanting a script to vote on, I write, I own Mckees' book and I have taken screenwriting classes and I can tell you that it isn't going to happen unless someone has a script already written, It took John August a professional screenwriter 4 months to adopt the screen play for "Big Fish" from the Novel. I use "Big Fish" because it is a globe spanning film with a multitude of different characters similar to our situation and it took him 4 months and the story was already written for him to adapt. I bring this up because I don't necessarily think that there is a clear understanding of the scope of difficulty to have a decent script. What we can expect to have done is just a rough outline. This is why I suggest a central idea or event or any thing along those lines, I believe that every segment should be its own short film that is tied together with the others. I don't mean to sound cynical I am just being a realist, and possibly after we have these individual stories we could have a single writer sit down and try to strengthen the connections.

B3Guy

I've just read thru again, this is getting lots of traffic. I agree, we need a wiki.

I was thinking, we could always go with the "wake up in a psych ward and don't remember who I am" start. It's been done to death, I know . . . but you gotta admit, it would lend itself to a disconnection of styles, locations, and supporting characters. Usually, the character discovers in the end that they're way more badass than they thought they were.

Anyone who feels capable of at least laying out a rough sketch of a script should start working on something . . . anyone who knows someone not on PV who would be a good writer should start playing their cards to see if they can get us a good writer.

I think we should probably avoid anything directly political, however I see no problem with the more general theme of "stick-it-to-da-man".

I think we need somewhere other than PV to continue this. Mr. Kiselev is very kind to all here, but we don't want to create too much off topic clutter.

Wherever we move this discussion, we should find somewhere that has the ability to take polls/votes. This will help things move MUCH faster.

Elenion

1 month just to decide the subject for me seems a little too much.
With this timing we'd finish the movie in like 3 years. I think that 2 weeks should be enough. Like 10th of december?
To use Wiki sounds like a great idea.
I think that every subject should be read and voted by everyone who partecipates in this project with a vote from 0 to 10. The script that obtains the best score it'd be the one. I also think that everyone should have the right to steal from the other's ideas (obviously citing) just to make a better job.
What do you think?

lolo

# Headless man and OCCUPY couldn´t be updated
we should probably make a wiki

@driftwood, about the deadline i agree, for christmas i think we could have our poll to decide wich story will be the one told

lolo

#ahhahah and also

i just recieved this warning updating the post

Body is 2711 characters too long.

lolo

# ... nobody follows the guidelines to keep order, perhaps a wiki is better for this, as i will not expend 2hours of every day trying to order the thing

johnnym

The script should be really good. (not that i know how) Maybe someone here has studied Robert McKee's book?
If we need some special effects, i have V-Ray experience. But i don't have expensive software like Max, Phoenix FD, Rayfire, .. only Blender :)
I like any script that involves evil bankers.

@sohus Rotterdam has a most impressive skyline, viewed from the A16.

driftwood

@lolo I can cover south east of England (inc. London) if any SE GH2 users on personal-view wanna link up - pm me.
I agree with a one writer script when all ideas are in and put to the vote.
A deadline date needs to be set if it hasnt been done already.
I can develop a unique set of patches for all settings, achieving the best quality I can squeeze for ALL settings. We'll call the patches the name of the movie :-)

Imaginate

Storyline & Concept * ( this story is NOT political but about the people the events are affecting )
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Title: OCCUPY - tagline 'Someones Killing Bankers'

Genre: INSTITUTIONALIZED: The question is whether there is a group with its own rules and norms that the main character is exploring the costs and benefits of membership in — and ultimately deciding whether they want to be a part of it or not. It’s about deciding who they want to be in relationship to it, and the risks and reward of same. Think Full Metal Jacket, Goodfellas, Office Space, The Devil Wears Prada, or Crash.

Style: ITALIAN NEOREALISM

Main Character serves as a narrator telling the history of the 'Occupy' movement just before the days that Bankers became hunted, He tells the stories of heroes and villians that emerged in those days and the global chain reaction ( butterfly effect ) that set off the first of the killings. And true to the Neorealism movement, less about the bankers and more about the working class people effected by these Global Events

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I like the idea that this film thats is being done in such a collaborative way , can have a voice or commentary on what is happening collaboratively with the occupy movement. Whether you believe in that movement or not, We are storytellers and should be commenting on this part of our history within our narratives.

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I think the community can help present ideas for the outline, but that probably a head writer or showrunner elected who works with a team of writers who are connected with the director teams and locations.

chef

Hi @All
I think the most things are done in an easy way, the most will be easy for everybody to follow the path.
For ex. everyone has a GH2 hacked rigth? So everyone can provide the "same kinda footage"... But not everyone has the same audio out. So I think a narrating voice over will keep uniform in composition. I mean the more we keep all the features easy, the more we can provide a uniformity in the movie.
@Elenion I´m down to set up a directing-assisting crew I´m in the Turin,Italy area .
I´m down also to throw some € in for the cloud storage . I have some close friends that owns a rockabilly- rock´n´roll band and he can easily put some tunes in...

RRRR

I'm not fond of doing something directly political, either.. If we go by the device that everything is political then one can choose to see it from such a perspective. In my experience and opinion, a centralized perspective of something political is pretty uninteresting.

(Just an opinion, I don't not intend to clamp down on anyones ideas)

Elenion

@Lolo +1

We should just write down something, discuss it, modify it, then vote it. Once we have the subject there must be one or maximum two writers (or it doesn't work) that write the screenplay. Now i'm not understanding much.

thepalalias

Emile Nelson suggested this variation on my idea, but he`s not a member and didn`t want credit (other than "special thanks" if it gets used) so here goes.

-What if it`s not "one" unifying voice, but a voiceover conversation between an older criminal, trying to recall events as he talks with a D.A. or police. The "variations" in style between the segments would serve the purpose of conveying the lack of specificty in his memory, as the police/DA question him about particular details.

So basically, in my own idea, he might be insane or senile. But in Emile`s, he`s a criminal with a bit of a spotty memory, trying to make a deal by spilling the beans on crimes from around the world.

I still like mine, but EMile`s is cool too, so just thought we might want to add it as an option.

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