@markr041

there has also been an escalation of China's bad behavior in the last few years and grows almost daily.

What is considered as "bad behavior" this week in US?

Last time I heard that providing your own goods for free (aka $450-500 billions of US trade deficit) and never asking stuff in return is considered very bad behavior by US now.

The 'favorable" graph might track my views on China (I do not see it as a "threat"), and my views were not influenced by the China haters in the Trump administration.

Your views is mostly influenced by major media, until you are specializing on Chinese stuff and constantly get their internal information and info from people in China.

I do not remember now reference, but in Mordor we had research made and strongest effect of mass media had been on people with PhD and up who in polls and questions answered that they have their independent personal opinions on the subjects and are almost never influenced by media :-)

Don't tell me what influences me or what my sources are.

Sorry if you get it such. Actually I never talked about this, only wrote that influences any average citizen. :-)

I can believe that the views of my PhD colleagues are heavily influenced by what others believe that they see in mass media.

Research showed direct influence had been stronger on more educated people (but educated in other areas). And contrary to less educated people they judged amount of such influence much worse.

That China behaves badly does not excuse the US from behaving badly. Or excuse you either.

I just asked that is considered as "bad behavior" now, just curious.

My sources are in China and I am in constant contact with them. I do research on and in China. My research on China, published outside China, has received prizes in China.

Do you have links, I will be very glad to check as much as I can? I highly regard you, btw.

The bad behavior in China that I care about most is the governmental censorship of information, and of the eradication of policy dissent internally in every institution.

Well, censorship became abstract word. Even our poor camera market has such amount of self censorship that wrong choosing of words talking about some camera or lens and you can become useless guy without income instead of valuable infuencer :-)

So, don't try that trick again of false equivalence.

Actually I consider US corporate censorship much worse, as in China at least you have superstructure working mostly in the interests of ordinary people (still :-)). And most censorship expenses go to anti-porno, anti stupid games and similar things, not on politics.

I understand that you talk about, but it seems like Chinese elites are more afraid about their own corporations now and realizing that they do not have homeland. Crackdown on Alibaba empire and alikes increasing each day.

Along with the governmental spread of misinformation on COVID vaccines produced outside China

Do you have samples (I mean Chinese media)? I clearly remember fairy tales on how Mordor talks bad about other vaccines (despite some of our leading TV channels and radio stations talking shit about Sputnik V instead almost each day, yes, we have openly pro US and pro EU channels).

If you want to defend China, go ahead. There are many good things about China.

If you noticed I defend China very specifically, as I actually oppose Chinese elites from the far left. So, I support things where China is keeping real left position or where it is moving to the left side in politics or economic.

And, there are many bad US policies. So what? I agree that the US government has influenced people's views on China, but that does not mean that is the only reason for changing attitudes in recent times. China was clearly villified.

It is just one staggering difference - US is leader of capitalist world.

So, supporting US actions is like supporting terminal cancer instead of cutting it out.

I understand how hard it is for you sometimes, as it is your home country that is doing such horrible things to its own citizens or to other countries.

Now it is Russia's turn in the new administration.

You are at fault that I am famished (c)

I have whole this fable on PV :-) - http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/268157#Comment_268157