Tagged with sound - Personal View Talks https://personal-view.com/talks/discussions/tagged/sound/p2/feed.rss Thu, 14 Nov 24 23:37:12 +0000 Tagged with sound - Personal View Talks en-CA Best MICROPHONE for a GH3 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9428/best-microphone-for-a-gh3 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 05:22:25 +0000 kaikerr 9428@/talks/discussions I looking for a microphone for a GH3... Any recomendations? something like Sennheiser MKE400 or RODE Videomic PRO? Or the new RODE line (cheaper)? Any test? Thanks.

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Documentary masterclasses (sound, camera) https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8938/documentary-masterclasses-sound-camera Sun, 01 Dec 2013 11:58:22 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8938@/talks/discussions

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Soundrecording / GH2 / 2 AKG C2000 mics adapted via 48v. ooc sound https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/10549/soundrecording-gh2-2-akg-c2000-mics-adapted-via-48v.-ooc-sound Fri, 06 Jun 2014 03:02:12 +0000 markussen 10549@/talks/discussions Small recording where I did use the on board recording of sound, and no editing of the sound. "quick and dirty" all ooc
Kurt

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FS - Sound Devices 302 Field Mixer + Portabrace https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8622/fs-sound-devices-302-field-mixer-portabrace Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:24:08 +0000 Alienhead 8622@/talks/discussions This mixer is the greatest and in excellent condition, but I need some cash for lenses. $1,050.

If someone is interested let me know and I'll post photos.

http:/http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/292980-REG/Sound_Devices_302_302_Portable_3_Channel.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/399052-REG/Sound_Devices_CS_3_CS_3_Production_Case.html

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Feature film sound tutorials? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7693/feature-film-sound-tutorials Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:48:18 +0000 tonalt 7693@/talks/discussions There's many tutorials about shooting, editing, color grading etc.. But I haven't found good tutorial about sound. This is the area in video production that I'm most unsure.

I would like to see tutorial (I prefer video tutorials) that explains from recording to post-production all steps in feature film sound production. How to place mic tips, recording, foley, syncing, post-processing (mixing, compressing etc.), how to attach post-recorded sound to scene so that it really sounds like it's from the scene and not from my clothes room etc...

IMO this is now the area that really makes difference in between amateur and pro videos.

I enrolled to online course called "Introduction to Digital Sound Design". https://www.coursera.org/course/digitalsounddesign . It gave excellent information about sound theory and music, but didn't really tell how to do things in practice for feature film.

So great tutorials, are there any?

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Miniture Location Sound for DSLRS https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/10138/miniture-location-sound-for-dslrs Thu, 10 Apr 2014 23:34:10 +0000 KenMartini 10138@/talks/discussions Here are 4 location sound configurations for traveling lite. The Yoga battery case powers the lav's which makes 2 of the configurations possible. This is a battery powered (1- AAA battery) electret phantom power supply only available in Europe. It can be found on Ebay. The Azden Cam-3 mixer makes it possible to separate the 2 channels going into the camera, or the recorder. The mixer is passive and has no amps. The photos should be self explanatory.

The sound check (by ear) was very good in the configurations that did not use the Sennheissers. The Sennheissers introduced their typical noise. When pre amps from the Sony PCM-M10 recorder, or the sennheissers are used, set the camera level to one click above off. The Sony M10 has cleaner sound than many larger and more expensive recorders, and is 1/4 the size. The best sound recorded to the camera was obtained by going through the M10. Having 3.5mm connectors makes it a bit more fragile. I suggest using all right angle connectors.

I found that the lavs with power supplies directly connected through the Azden Cam-3 mixer was clean enough for speech, although it does depend on the pre amps of the camera you are using which typically has some noise on the floor. I used Countryman B6's. They are one of my favorite lavs. The sound quality is excellent and they are so small I can push them through button holes. That way they are virtually invisible, and I do not have to contend with clothing ruffling. I advocate not using transmitters whenever possible such as sit down interviews. If you are fortunate to have Lectros wireless, then there is no noise issue.

What is very cool is using the mixer connected directly to the camera. The entire sound kit fits in a pocket. The miniature boom mic is a "Que Audio DSLR-Video Microphone Kit"

I did a bit more testing and it looks like some noise is being introduced by the lav power supplies. The unit itself only supplies power and has a passive volume control. My guess is that it is the 4 meter cable which is probably low quality. I will shorten the cables and report back.

I tested the mic power supplies and found almost no difference with them in, or out. I am concluding that they are not a significant noise contributer, although I still think think the cables are not very good, and i will replace them with higher quality. The cases snap open and it looks like an easy fix.

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Kickstarter for audio capture and post-production tutorial. https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9948/kickstarter-for-audio-capture-and-post-production-tutorial. Sun, 23 Mar 2014 03:28:30 +0000 arum 9948@/talks/discussions I got the previous tutorial about audio these dudes made and I was pleased with it. It was easier to get and more entertaining than reading Jay Rose's book on sound capture (it also covers noticeably less stuff, but definitely covers what I thought was most important).

Maybe there are other people in this forum that would be interested.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1085205247/sound-for-film-and-television-vol-ii-advanced-topi

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How to record (and monitor) any internal sound on a mac easy and free? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9047/how-to-record-and-monitor-any-internal-sound-on-a-mac-easy-and-free Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:06:11 +0000 maxr 9047@/talks/discussions Recently I desperately - oohh c'won exaggeration, buhhhh, hung him - needed to record something coming from the web browser, I normally use other more stupid (time consuming) ways. This one I thought was worth sharing


4 simple steps

1 - Download Soundflower

2 - Install. Restart. Go to system preferences/sound/ and select sound flower both from input and output
alternatively and much faster you can just press the volume icon in the menu bar while pressing Alt.

3 - In your sound flower applications folder launch Soundflowerbed, in the icon in system menu bar select Soundflower (2ch) output;
you can further tweak settings below, but it is really up to you

4 - Launch Quicktime X, then File/New Audio Recording and from little triangle at right select sound flower input and quality.
Orrrr you can use instead Quicktime pro version, as will allow you to record uncompressed happy audio unicorn files, yeahhh


Extra tit, I mean tip for monitoring or realtime line input
This is the simplest and free also: RogueAmoeba's Line In

 

And because I really don't want you to remain with unhealthy curiosity, this is the thing I wanted to record :P

it reminded me of a japanese Maria Peszek

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Oscar Sound Tech OST802 lavalier microphones. Anyone used them? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/3458/oscar-sound-tech-ost802-lavalier-microphones.-anyone-used-them Sun, 03 Jun 2012 03:06:39 +0000 kronstadt 3458@/talks/discussions I want to start a discussion about the "cheap-but-good" lavalier mics that are out there. I heard that you can buy some relatively good lavs on eBay for dirt cheap. Anyone used them? Can you post an eBay link? What's your opinion?

I'm not gonna get into Lavalier mics for now - simply can't afford them (unless I find some worthy cheap deals to experiment with). But when I do, (if I'll really need to get Lavs for some wide-shot dialogues) I'm thinking to have a cheap setup like this http://www.danmccomb.com/posts/678/zoom-h1-as-wireless-lav-4x-cheaper/ with Tram TR-50 plugged directly into Zoom H1 (yes, you can't monitor, but hey it's a cheap solution). From one of the comments on that post, someone mentioned Oscar Sound Tech OST 802 lavs, which seems to be 1/3 of the price of TR50 (circa $120).

Here's a comparison/test with Sennheiser ME2

and here's another test

Have you ever heard of these OST802 lavs??? Someone even did a comparison between Tram TR50 and OST802 here http://proaudiocoalition.com/index.php/cdolan-pac/story/my_lav_mic_has_a_first_name_its_o-s-c-a-r/ (Tram TR-50 in the right ear, and OST802 in the left ear). OST802 indeed sounds very very similar to TR50 (although OST802 sounded a tiny bit "flatter", but nevertheless a whole lot more pleasant than Sanken COS11D or Sennheiser ME2).

What's your opinion?

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Sony PCM-D100 recorder https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8525/sony-pcm-d100-recorder Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:46:49 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8525@/talks/discussions

  • Records PCM, DSD, MP3 Formats
  • Up to 192kHz/24-Bit PCM, 2.8224MHz DSD
  • 32GB Internal Memory & SD-XC Card Slot
  • Stereo Mics with Multiple Positions
  • Separate 2-channel record level adjustments
  • Works on four AA alkaline batteries, up to 25 hours
  • Aluminum Construction
  • 32-Bit D/A Converters
  • Includes Remote, Furry Windscreen
  • Includes Batteries & Carry Case
  • Includes Sound Forge Studio LE Software

Available at:

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Last edit - ENDLESS https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7056/last-edit-endless Thu, 23 May 2013 19:55:15 +0000 maxr 7056@/talks/discussions

all feedback, comments, thoughts, tips, rants, recipes, questions, secrets and other form of communication are most welcome

gashô

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Vocal processors and harmonizers https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1782/vocal-processors-and-harmonizers Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:53:30 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 1782@/talks/discussions Poor grandmothers still will have heart attacks hearing it, technology didn't move so far to prevent it yet.
But anyway.

Ones that I know.

TC Helicon VoiceWorks Plus, monster rack thing allowing to even change voice, with super cryptin interface
But they also have much simpler pedals.

Digitech Vocalist stuff, much more easy to use
You can read something about tech behing them
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Steadi-DRUMS - I want this rig! https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7583/steadi-drums-i-want-this-rig Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:32:11 +0000 driftwood 7583@/talks/discussions

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Fostex DC-R302 remote triggering GH2 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7578/fostex-dc-r302-remote-triggering-gh2 Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:31:16 +0000 Quandoquidem 7578@/talks/discussions Can anyone who owns or has used this unit confirm whether it is able to remote trigger recording on the GH2? this feature is designed so that when you press record on the Fostex, recording is automatically triggered on the camera. This happens one of two ways;

  1. via an infra-red trigger, which currently i beleive only works with the 5dmk ii, or
  2. through a wire from the Fostex to the remote port on the camera.
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Recforge Lite https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7558/recforge-lite Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:33:10 +0000 Brian_Siano 7558@/talks/discussions Has anyone used Recforge Lite in video production? It's a sound recording app for Android phones. I'm considering using it with smartphones and lapel mikes to get good voice tracks, but I'd like to know if RecForge works well with video projects. Does it work well? Does it sync properly with video?

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Sound design of Monsters University https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7447/sound-design-of-monsters-university Sun, 07 Jul 2013 02:01:44 +0000 MikeLinn 7447@/talks/discussions

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Propellerheads Reason 7 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6386/propellerheads-reason-7 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:41:00 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 6386@/talks/discussions

New stuff:

  • Automatic audio slicing and audio quantize
  • MIDI out
  • Convert recordings into REX loops for further creative possibilities
  • New spectrum analyzer with visual EQ controls
  • Group and parallel mix channels
  • Workflow improvements
  • Reason 7 makes it easier to import audio from users, music libraries and the web, with support for mp3, aac, wma and more.
  • Enhanced Factory Sound Bank comes with new loops and drum kits.
  • New Audiomatic Retro Transformer effect unit adds a “futuristic-vintage” sound

Prices:

  • Reason 7 - $449
  • Reason Essentials 2 - $129

Via: http://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/new/

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Small high quality audio recorder https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7117/small-high-quality-audio-recorder Fri, 31 May 2013 10:24:34 +0000 ade4all 7117@/talks/discussions Hi - am looking for a smallish audio recorder to use as a bit bucket using line in from SD mix pre-d. I would also like to use it connected to my Rode lav mic, sometimes as a poor mans radio mic ( i know I wont be able to monitor sound this way but when I'm filming on my own this can be really handy) I've been using Zoom h1 for this - have been reasonably happy with the results connected to the mix pre-d using its version of 'line' in - but using the zoom and rode lav has given me quite noisey hissy audio.

Is there a decent recorder out there that can handle true line in from the mix pre and has a low enough noise floor to create hiss free recordings when tethered to the Rode lav and can easily fit into someones pocket?

The Sony PCM-M10 has fairly good reviews and is my top choice at the moment, just wondered if there was something same size or possibly slightly smaller that has similar audio quality ? it would need to be a decent step up in quality from the Zoom h1

Any help would be gratefully received.....

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Sound camera https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6926/sound-camera Thu, 09 May 2013 16:45:00 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 6926@/talks/discussions Uses multiple mikes array.

This is where the sound camera comes in. Just as thermal detector cameras show the distribution of temperature, sound cameras use a microphone arrangement to express the distribution of sound and to find the location of the sound. However, existing sound cameras are not only too big and heavy, their assembly and installation are complex and must be fixed on a tripod. These limitations made it impossible to measure noises from small areas or the base of cars.

The newly developed product is an all-in-one system resolving the inconvenience of assembling the microphone before taking measurements. Moreover, the handle in the middle is ergonomically designed so users can balance its weight with one hand. The two handles on the sides work as a support and enable the user to hold the camera in various ways.

http://www.kaist.edu/english/01_about/06_news_01.php?req_P=bv&req_BIDX=10&req_BNM=ed_news&pt=17&req_VI=4127

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Musikmesse 2013 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6659/musikmesse-2013 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:04:29 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 6659@/talks/discussions This is topic to collect all news from this exhibition.

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Recommendation on sound recording system https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6609/recommendation-on-sound-recording-system- Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:29:00 +0000 Brian_Siano 6609@/talks/discussions I do some work with a theater company, and one of our longstanding problems is that the theater itself has terrible acoustics. I use a Rode Videomic for shooting, and that's nice, but the quality's not perfect.

So we're looking into other strategies. I like the idea of getting lapel mikes, having the actors wear smartphones or recorders, and syncing the tracks up in post. Good aspects; cheap, simple, easily expandable to any number of performers.

Someone suggested that we get a system where the mikes send wireless signals to a central recorder. I'm not keen on this, because it may be expensive, it may be difficult to balance the sounds afterward, and the number of mikes may be limited. But I don't know, so I agreed to ask around for such a system.

We're shooting with DSLRs (mostly GH2's), so that may be a factor here.

Any suggestions?

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New Rode 16 Channel 360' Mic https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6559/new-rode-16-channel-360-mic Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:08:03 +0000 kellar42 6559@/talks/discussions

This plus an iTouch looks like a much better solution that those 3D mics floating around for me. Love the concept. @PhillipBloom adds his usual high standards of reviewing to the launch video.

http://www.rodemic.com/news/new-rode-i16-offer-360-surround-recording-for-ios-devices

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Vocaloid software https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6503/vocaloid-software Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:01:44 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 6503@/talks/discussions Avanna, first English singing female voice

Price - $129

Uses Vocaloid 3 and includes editor:

  • Piano-roll style note editor, importing functionality from a standard MIDI file
  • Inputting lyrics and automatic conversion to phonemes
  • Assigning musical expression templates from an Icon Palette
  • Sending notes, lyrics and musical expression to the Synthesis Engine
  • Saving vocal data as a .wav file
  • Changing synthesis parameters
  • Reverb
  • Playback .wav files

Via: http://www.soundsonline.com/Vocaloid-3-Avanna

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Medeli DR2 recorder aka Alesis Palm Track https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6154/medeli-dr2-recorder-aka-alesis-palm-track- Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:34:54 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 6154@/talks/discussions image

Specifications:

  • 24 Bit WAVE / MP3 Recorder
  • Recording Media: SD/ SDHC memory card (64MB~16GB)
  • Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz / 48 kHz
  • MIC Select: 2 MICS / 4 MICS
  • Effects: 5 types ( Delay, Chorus, Room, Hall, Pitch Shift)
  • Record Format: WAV 16 bit, WAV 24 bit , MP3 64 kbps, MP3 96 kbps, MP3 128 kbps, MP3 196 kbps, MP3 224 kbps, MP3 320 kbps
  • Built-in Speaker
  • Display: 128 x 64 dots OLED
  • Input: 1/8" Stereo Line Input, 1/8" External MIC input, Built-in Stereo MIC
  • Output: 1/8" Headphones.
  • USB Interface: Mini-B type
  • Power Requirements: AC adaptor (DC 3V) or AA size (LR6) battery x 2
  • Dimensions: 67(W) x 29(D) x 107(H)mm

More info: http://medeli.com.hk/products/dr/dr-2.html

Price: below $90

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alesis-Palm-Track-Handheld-SD-Digital-Stereo-Recorder-24-bit-Audio-/170932733029

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SOLD https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6478/sold Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:13:49 +0000 gameb 6478@/talks/discussions I am selling my Sennheiser 416 P48, one of the most used and sophisticated shotgun microphones in the professional sound recording world. It is well kept, has only very light signs of cosmetic wear. Price is 520€ + shipping, only to Europe.

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New Reason Rack Extensions from Numerical Sound https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6422/new-reason-rack-extensions-from-numerical-sound Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:36:04 +0000 thepalalias 6422@/talks/discussions I thought I would share a new (as well as an almost new) Rack Extension for Reason that I consulted on for Numerical Sound.

First, there's Tone Mutation Instruments, a quick way to try out different timbral variations on your sounds with just a couple clicks. It uses convolution technology to take the harmonic content of 36 different sound sources (guitars, instruments, etc.) and apply it to your sounds and recordings. http://shop.propellerheads.se/product/tone-mutation-instruments/

Then there's ReStereo, which expands any mono signal into stereo in a much more natural and detailed fashion than existing plug-ins, and often with much greater phase coherence and control. It can be made to sound very subtle and several of the presets sound more like the signal was simply recorded in a different fashion, as opposed to more like an effect. http://shop.propellerheads.se/product/restereo/

Anyway, I'm sharing these (whereas I normally don't talk much about my Numerical Sound work) because 1) they are in a much lower price bracket than NS products normally are and 2) I noticed that the Reason 7 announcement is one of the most recent in the Sound and Music section - and all of these plug-ins are fully compatible with Reason 6 and later, as well as Reason Essentials 1.5 and later.

ReStereo is one that I find especially useful for helping expand shotgun mics and other mono soundsources and I hope that they prove useful to all of you as well. In my experience, each product represents the best version of the color it sets out to achieve - no competing product matches them, but that doesn't mean that color is right for everybody. :)

Each of them has a 30-day fully-functional free trial so you might as well check it out if the concept interests you. Let me know @Vitaliy_Kiselev if there's anything I should do to help make sure the announcement doesn't read too much like SPAM. :)

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Photosounder sound spectrum editor https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6040/photosounder-sound-spectrum-editor Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:08:53 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 6040@/talks/discussions image

See more at http://photosounder.com/

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Portable audio recorders tests https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5094/portable-audio-recorders-tests Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:41:52 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 5094@/talks/discussions This is topic only about tests that include two or more different recorders, use specific topics for test including only one recorder

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Microphones used is movies https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5920/microphones-used-is-movies Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:01:54 +0000 kronstadt 5920@/talks/discussions Reading around the internet can get you a lot of disinformation, or rumours at best. So I thought I'd create this thread to see if the microphones that are mentioned have indeed been used in movies, and which ones.

For example, there is a rumour going around that Sennheiser MKH 416 has been the "industry standard" throughout 70s and 80s (and even 90s) in many Hollywood films. Is this true? If yes, which films? Please mention them. I would love to listen to those films.

There is another rumour that Rode NTG-3 (and even NTG-2) is being used in film productions. If you KNOW this to be the case, then,please, list the movies that use NTG-3. (and I don't mean movies made for Vimeo, or amateur movies that don't stand the chance of being accepted into any decent festival)

If there are other microphones that you know of, please add them to this list and please mention which movies they were used in. Movies from any decade are welcome. (like, I'd love to know what mics were used in Taxi Driver, The Godfather, Network, Blowout, Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction etc)

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Field Mixer, worth buying? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4936/field-mixer-worth-buying Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:23:54 +0000 AfricaGH2 4936@/talks/discussions Ok, so I appear to be hung up on sound lately and am wondering if it's worth buying an expensive field mixer like the Sound Devices 302 for my future projects - I plan to record separate sound. As a one person show most of the time I have heard that it's preferred to use just an external recorder, one device compared to two. But it seems that a field mixer it set up better to be adjusted quickly and set levels compared to the fiddly buttons found on a digital recording devices such as those by Roland and Zoom. (I fully aware of the pre-amp, noise level issue) So in theory I'd just have to mess with the Field Mixer and then just hit record on the Zoom. Ok, so on the negative, two devices to dick around with, two on switches etc AND just me .......

I've asked this question to Philip Bloom and he says I'm wrong -- "because this is one man band kit…i had help here but still…why on earth would you bring a mixer unless you had a sound man?" but I still don't see why so please if you're an audio professional and have actually used a field mixer digital recorder combo get back to me. I'm sure I'm missing something here but as I've not actually do any work with an external sound recorder I'm sure what I'm saying is pure conjecture :) There is a difference I think too compared to what he was he was doing, filming a person interview in a very controlled environment compared to chasing tornadoes and trying to get audio from people in a very difficult environment.

So sound pro's your feedback please!

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