Tagged with moon - Personal View Talks

Panasonic GH2 Custom Neat Video Profiles (noise reduction)

TreyM — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 07:47:38 +0000

Hi everyone, I spent a few hours over the past two days creating some Neat Video noise profiles for the GH2 running Moon T8. Currently, I have only created profiles for the 24H, 24L, and 720p60 SH settings, and I use Neat Video version 4. I'm not sure if these profiles will work on other versions, but they may.

If there is enough interest, I can begin to expand the profiles to support more video modes and various hacks beyond Moon T8.

I created a profile for each ISO setting, including secondary settings for the ISO bugged modes (up to 2500 ISO for those) ("clean" is normal, "dirty" is with the bug in case you forget to fix the problem and shoot with the ISO bug)

These profiles were created using the Smooth film mode at -2 -2 -2 -2, though they will probably still work with other modes. What is being picked up here is mostly sensor ISO noise since Moon T8's bitrate is so high.

The end result is that I have been able to recover about 1 - 1.5 stops of extra detail in the shadows on my shots as opposed to it looking like a total mess of noise. If you shoot at crazy high ISO settings, it can't make a shot at 12,800 ISO look like 200 ISO, but as long as your footage is reasonable, you can greatly expand the usable dynamic range of the camera and color grading is that much better.

These profiles should be used FIRST before doing any other processing such as grading, sharpening, scaling, or color correction. Etc...

The 1080p24 profiles seem to work fine on footage shot in variable mode, for example, if you use the 80% mode for slight slow motion.

Here is a link to an Imgur gallery showing what the profiles are capable of: Gallery

Download links:

1080p24 24H

1080p24 24L

1080p24 EX24H (Ex. Tele Convert Mode)

720p60 SH

Driftwood Cluster X series 3:│moon T7│ЅріzZ T6│Nebula T7│Drewnet T9│

driftwood — Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:27:25 +0000

A 'cluster' of different GOPs (Group of Pictures) forms the basis of the Cluster X series - to boldly see how far we can push each GOP factor in terms of superb looking artifact free Intra & prediction based Longer GOP (> 3) out of the panasonic cameras - where a natural scale of compression and consumed bitrate begins to appear according to its GOP size.

What's so good about all these new Cluster X settings? In simple terms, after looking at the rate control, quantisation and scaling matrices found in the GH3, Nikon D800 and Canon 5DMKIII I decided upon a radical approach to find out if the GH2 was capable of getting near their very low QP values (which range from predominantly 1 to 30 depending on the detail and luminance of the subject).

What I found was (and this had me concerned before) was that Panasonic's implementation / or ptools labelling!) of rate control using the GH2's quantisation parameter isn't too clear. I needed a way of having a minumum Quant and a desired maximum quant. Strangely with Initial Quantizer = 30, Quantizer for 1080 modes = 3 (+-2 can offer a QP of 1 !) and Quantizer for 720 modes = 30 I could sortof achieve this!!!!

With 720 using B frames (switched on in the 720 encoder 1 settings as = 3) Quantizer for 720 modes seems to work as a highest Quantisation setting (high is worse, low quant is best) together with Initial Quant of 30 (don't worry about such a high starting value here - after the first frame it settles straight back to lowest achievable (best) for the scene. Subsequently, Quantizer for 1080 modes = 3 gives me my lowest desired (best quant) for each opt 24p, 1080i, HBR and 720 modes.

This quantizer rate control now seems to work as in newer High Profile Level 5 (5.1) cameras such as the 5DMKIII and Nikon D800 (and seemingly the GH3) and when matched with a new softer looking matrix - as analysed on the Canon 5DMKIII (with adjustments) - brings a degree of softening to the over sharpe Pany lenses.

I'm also sure that 1080i/FSH?HBR modes work better with half the coded picture buffer size of 720p modes (indeed I switched off 720 Bottom setting (the buffer amount as in automatically works it out) whilst offering a fairly low buffer in bitrate settings in 'patches for testers'.

In summary, the range of QP will be (certianly in 1080p24 modes) from 1 to 30 - often staying very low (less than 10) all round. I believe (although only tested by myself) that the result offers extremely good looking 720p modes (probably the best ever), certainly superior 24p with Intra & Long GOP, and great looking HBR/FSH and iA mode control (though further strenuous tests may well be required). High dynamic functions work it seems too.

All the new Cluster X series settings for each GOP attached below have been tested on the notoriously sharp Pany OIS lenses. Give me feedback.

Its as simple as A, B, C, D, E, F ! Each .ini setting in ptools for Cluster X Series will equate to setA ('DREWnet' 12/15 GOP), setB ('Nebula' 6 GOP), setC ('Spizz' 3 GOP), setD ('Moon' 1 GOP/3 GOP). Any updates will stay on these sets.

"Cluster X Series isn't for pussies!" Driftwood 2013

If you enjoy these settings please don't forget to donate to personal-view by clicking on the link above. Gratitude and thanks to Vitaliy Kiselev.

Driftwood Cluster X Series 4:│Moon T8│Spizz T7

driftwood — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:28:29 +0000

Yes, Ive been away... Apologies for this delay.

DRIFTWOOD 'moon T8' - 23.976p/29.97p/ 59.94p After interpreting some of the GH4 stuff in mp4 files AVCHD, and fine tuning the matrices, lowering the GOP Related stuff (to achieve more power in non death chart situations and subsequent higher bitrates) this setting should achieve better IQ with a stronger matrix to knock out any artefacting that people may be suffering with moon T7 on HBR/50p/60p modes.

Subsequently, you get a finer low frequency matrix that strives to knock out artefacting at the expense of QP and higher bitrates.

Ive settled on a QP rate control centre point of Q14 and the matrix adapted from the GH4 and improved has been tweaked to the max. However, its untested outside of me and needs your input.

Let me know how you get on.

Peak bitrates for all modes means only the best SD cards should be used. I doubt this will work in iA modes and iDynamic.

140Mbps to 148Mbps Intra 24p 52Mbps to 68Mbps 720p Upto 88+Mbps FSH/HBR

This is a TEST and report back setting!

Just Released: 5th Aug 2014 - Driftwood Spizz T7 - The Comfortable Setting!

101 Mbps Max 23.97fps(24p) 50Mbps Min-80Mbps Max 25p/30p 50Mbps Min-77Mbps Max 50p/60p

Very good IQ. Check it.

ProRes vs Cineform vs MTS + Profiles

neks — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:56:08 +0000

First of all hello to everybody and thanks to all who made this little camera shine!

Just wanted to share some test I did today about noise, conversion and profiles. I went outside and shoot few takes all with the same camera settings(iso 160, 1/100, F5.6), using Driftwood's amazing new Cluster X S2 - 1GOP Intra Moon T5 settings. Also, I did a few tests with profiles few days ago and what I could find is that Vibrant has the least amount of noise, while Smooth(that I was using all the time) was the worst, for me at least.

So here you can see 3 profiles used, Vibrant, Smooth, Cinema, all to -2, wanted to test them once again and make sure, plus convert the files to ProRes and CineForm and see the difference. Scaled at 400%

As ProRes looked more/less the same as the raw MTS file, I decided to push them even further and scale them to 800% and compare only CineForm and raw MTS files.

I know I'll be always converting files to CineForm before edit from now on, and never again use Smooth profile. Also because a weird amount of blockiness in 25p mode I'll probably just go with 24p when ever I can. Need to test 25p a bit more with this new Moon settings though.

Cheers!

Excessive Grain (Not ISO Bug)

jondshank — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 21:49:52 +0000

I recently loaded the Moon T7 hack onto my GH2.

In my most recent shoot I was using a 95mb/s Extreme Sandisk and 24H mode.

I played the video on my computer when I got home to find it looks grainy. I used 400 ISO throughout the entire shoot and according to my meter I was properly exposed.

Attached is a photo. I've seen shots from other people's moon t7 footage that are far more crisp. Any ideas?

Look to the skies..

matthere — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 07:10:37 +0000

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-scientist-sheds-light-on-rare-sept-27-supermoon-eclipse

New GH2 Beauty film.

endotoxic — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:45:34 +0000

Cinema like light handling...but vimeo compression make bad move on me.

GH2 when properly exposed handles like a champ.

2 GH2 cameras

Rokinon cine lenses:

14mm T3.1,
25mm T1.5,
35mm T1.5,
85mm T1.5

Shutter speed 40 "magic trick on cadence"

Profile: smooth -2,-2,-0,-2

The trick here is to underexpose the camera and use proper ND filters. New patches allow to handle good recovery on gamma curves. I think the cadence also improves when shutter is at 40.

Im no pro color corrector, so some shots are not well balanced.

I did the Direction and cinematography

Driftwood ClusterX series 2:│moon│ЅріzZ│nebula│drewnet│Slipstream │Redshift

driftwood — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:03:08 +0000

Cluster X Settings - Series 2

After receiving over a thousand replies in the last 8 weeks in the previous thread we continue the series here from the following link:-

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5806/cluster-x-series-1

Whats it all about? Achieving the best looking overall pictures around - throughtout the popular GOPs. The great thing about Cluster X developments is you can mix and match some of the settings to combine into your favourite setting (e.g. GOP1 for 24p and 25p/FSH, GOP 6 For 1080i60/30p and 12/15 for 720p etc...). Slipstream settings do this for you (mixed and matched and with spanning capabilities where we can plus 80% modes on H & iA mode support).

This has been a tough (and still ongoing) challenge, each setting (and ptools patch change) takes an age to check & measure. Its exhausting work - even with 4 cameras on the go. The measuring to check Quantisation, frame sizes and stability adapting one change at a time is pretty debilitating on mental energy. I hope people appreciate waiting for each setting to appear.

All the new Cluster X series settings for each GOP attached below have been tested on the notorious 14-140 Pany sharp lens. Give me feedback.

"Bitrate is King. Who needs hi powered scaling matrices when enough Bitrate (if you have it) can drive the quantisation..." Quote from my conversation with Dark Shikari - X264 dev 2012

If you enjoy these settings please don't forget to donate to personal-view by clicking on the link above. Gratitude and thanks to Vitaliy Kiselev.

Latest shoot for Garden TV using Moon5

vicharris — Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:50:53 +0000

Here's another shoot that just finished post. IMO, some of the best footage is at the end during the night shot with SLRs 25mm and 12mm lenses. All day footage was shot with the Tokina 12-24. Password: password

Gh2 Hack issues

gregbankley — Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:29:38 +0000

I need a solid hack. I hacked my gh2 with the Moon T7 and when I shot this weekend, it cut out mid recording at about 6 minutes. It kept doing this on one of my GH2. Then when I went to import, the files weren't showing up in Final Cut. They were found on m y memory card as .MTS files, so I had to convert them... But anyway, which hack can you recommend that will be solid but still awesome quality? Thanks! Is moon T8 more reliable than t7? I can't have one that is cutting mid recording and also not playing back after record!

I am using a 32 gb sandisk extreme pro 90mpbs

Moon T7 keeps crashing

Seethlaw — Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:55:50 +0000

So I installed MoonT7 on my gh2 and began filming with my Voigtlander 25mm F.95 and it crashed within the first two minutes (I was filming inside). I took out the batteries, tried it again but this time with a static shot and filmed the couch. It was working solid for 8 minutes before I decided to test it and walked in, sat on the couch then returned to the camera to find that it froze again.

I switched lenses to my Vivitar 55mm f2.8 Macro and repeated the test, it froze again after about a minute.

The shots weren't very detail heavy either, just an empty wall, couch and ma doggy.

I was using a Sandisk Extreme Pro 32gb/95mbs, which I purchased yesterday. Is it the wrong card for the job?

Does anyone have any advice or experience with this? Should I just reinstall the hack or try a different one?

Moon T8 contest entry

blah_dogs — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:53:23 +0000

I put this video together pretty quickly for a Gibson contest. It's a pretty big prize package for a very simple contest so I decided to enter. It's the first video I've shot in a few months so I'm really interested in getting some feedback from the community. Thx for taking the time to check it out. If you'd like to vote for it you may do so every hour until september 30th by following this link http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Contests/2014/2014-Monthly-Contest-Landing/July-Contest.aspx

And here's the video. It was shot with Moon T8 using a SanDisk 32gb 80 MBs card and SLR Magic 12mm & 25mm. I had no time to actually light the shots and all post was done in edius. Decided not to grade the footage at all.

Music Video Shot with GH2, DW Cluster 7, Moon T6 (modified to 110mbps) and Russian M39 Lenses.

IntoCRASH — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:34:35 +0000

Lenses used: Jupiter 3 50mm f1.5, and Jupiter 9 85mm f2.0 M39 mount adapted to M4/3 A few clips were colored with FilmConvert. Edited in Sony Vegas. Enjoy!

LIVE MUSIC SESSIONS SHOT w/4 - 7 GH2s running various hacks. Think KEXP or Yours Truly

Ahrynick — Thu, 19 Jun 2014 19:22:02 +0000

Lens for shooting the moon?

tonalt — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 12:11:04 +0000

I'm going to video shoot moon and need good tele lens for that. It needs to be sharp as possible, but not too expensive. Since I have m4/3 cameras I could try some older vintage lens with m4/3 adapter. And I also need to get as close as possible to the moon.

Any recommendations? Aperture doesn't matter that much since moon is so bright.

GH2 music video with bodypainting: DJ Bassanova - Mr. Soul & Music

richardwouter — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:26:59 +0000

Hi there,

This is the music video that we made for the dutch DJ Bassanova. The video was filmed with two GH2's. Technical specs:

Camera : 2x Panasonic GH2 (AVC-Intra Driftwood MOON T7) Lens : Nikon AF-S 24-70mm f2.8 G ED, Nikon 50mm F1.2, Nikon Fish Eye, NIKKOR 80-200mm f/4.5, 2x Meta Bones SpeedBoosters Gear : Sachtler FSB-4 75 CF, Kessler Hercules 2.0 Head, Kessler Pocket Jib, Kessler K-Pod Tripod System, Kessler K-Flex Dolly Track System, Gini Follow Focus Rig, 2x Lilliput monitors, ARRI 650 Plus Tungsten Fresnel Light

GH2 Moon T7 - Patch whats best export. settings in Premier Pro cs6 ???

ura — Mon, 06 Jan 2014 23:33:02 +0000

Hey guys im new to this site/forum so Hi to all :) I have few questions, as you know im using gh2 and moon t7 patch with high b-rate and ive did a vide but what is the best EXPORTING SETTINGS in Premier Pro cs6 for lets say personal use like id show to friends and stuff so it could be havyier on the memory side of export and what is the best export for sites like YOUTUBE and VIMEO ???

Waqti film trailer - shot with GH2

Passman — Mon, 23 Dec 2013 05:08:01 +0000

Here is a trailer for a film i shot last summer on the GH2. If anyone is interested in any details you can just ask here and i will do my best to answer. So what does everyone think of the trailer?

Anamorphic crop in post, cheap Vivitar 28-200 lens, GH2, Moon T7 hack.

Pluss — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 02:38:40 +0000

my test of Moon T7 hack, anamorphic crop in post, minimal color grade, stabilization was added in post. Lenses: Vivitar 28-200, Lumix 14-140

Still Master Vodka - Take A Moment

pchristoph — Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:13:42 +0000

This was a fun commercial I shot at the end of August for a new product line of Canadian Vodka from Shelter Point Distillery. The clients have great personalities and it is rewarding to build relationships with people who trust my work and ideas. I think together we are developing a good brand that represents who they are. That sandbar is over 600ft from shore. It was a chore to get all our gear there at low tide. At high tide, we used row boats to cart everything back though. Coordinating the time of day for the shoot with the tides in and out for shots was tricky. It made me glad I am a sailor and knew how to read tide and current tables during preproduction! The aerial shot at the end was captured using an octocopter by Duane over at AboveGroundLevel.ca All shots on GH2 (magenta filter in front of sensor) ISO 200, Super Takumar lenses (28mm, 35mm, 50mm macro, 135mm), smooth all -2, Driftwood's Moon Trial 7, Speedbooster, colored and edited in FCPX.

GH2 post production -Premiere Pro CS6

tokyo187 — Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:47:31 +0000

Pertaining to post production with the GH2 - Using slipstream 3 moon hack. As I attempt to bring in footage to Premier Pro CS6 the playback is hicuppy at best, starting with the audio cutting out. Would anyone have any workable preference for this situation. The media files all natively save to a private folder in which I transferred to my HDD. From there I took the footage into Premier. I began with opening the files, then after the hiccups, I decided to import, still same problems occur. Also using Dynamic Link, do you have to import all used media files to each different program?

Windows 8 Intel Corei7-3630QM Geforce GTX 680M / 4GB GDDR5 12GB RAM DDRIIII 750GB 7200RPM

hence, should have no problem running any of these programs in cohesion.

FRED AND AMANDA - short 'love story' video shot on GH2 using moon

JPB1138 — Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:14:33 +0000

Here is small project I shot with the GH2 and various lenses, for a couple I know, GH2 did the job. ENJOY. COmments and questions welcome.

GH2 Bacon Short Film Shot on SLR Magic 25mm

kraqman — Thu, 30 May 2013 12:56:43 +0000

Hey all,

Here's a short we shot with Moon T5. http://www.poptent.net/share/asqq/3

We used the SLR Magic 25mm 0.95 and the Panny 14mm 2.5.

Once again, big thanks to Driftwood and Vitaliy!!

The First of Two Films in my 'Hometown' Series

B3Guy — Tue, 21 May 2013 02:52:10 +0000

Hi, All! I had posted a week or so back about some art gallery bound films of mine that I was projecting this past weekend. Here is the first of two films in the series. This one is maybe a month old, and was in a show then at Bethel University in their Johnson Gallery. I displayed it on my Dell U3011 which I built into the wall just for the show along with a laptop for playback. It is not really made with web viewing in mind, it supposed to be viewed in an art gallery, but some folks here on the forum expressed interest in seeing my work, so I uploaded it to share with the community.

I shot it all on GH2 with @Driftwood Moon Trial 5. I used a Kowa 16-H with Redstan clamps and a Lightcraft Workshop Fader ND Mark II, mounted on a Konica Hexanon 40mm f1.8, usually stopped down to f2.8 or even f4.

This is the first, and has certain things that make it very successful in terms of capturing my concept for the project. But technically, I think I prefer the second film even though it is simpler in some ways.

I hope you enjoy it, and I hope it is of some use. Feedback and questions are of course welcome! (Note: I'm going to go ahead and post this, but Vimeo might initially be still in the process of converting the clip.)

Cluster X: Series 1 - moon - ЅріzZ - nebula - drewnet - Slipstream

driftwood — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:11:18 +0000

Cluster X Series Settings.

All the new Cluster X series settings for each GOP attached below have been tested on the notorious 14-140 Pany sharp lens. Give me feedback.

"Bitrate is King. Who needs hi powered scaling matrices when enough Bitrate (if you have it) can drive the quantisation..." Quote from my conversation with Dark Shikari - X264 dev 2012

If you enjoy these settings please don't forget to donate to personal-view by clicking on the link above. Gratitude and thanks to Vitaliy Kiselev.

Cluster X 'Slipstream'

A series of GOP combination settings drawn from the Cluster X series but set at nominal bitrate settings (40 to 72Mbps) to achieve a better spanning percentage for longer recordings plus the ability to be used on slower sd cards. Slipstream attempts to correlate the actual clip duration to the TS (transport stream) duration whilst providing error free population of the cpb buffers. And it seems to work very well at these settings. :-)

Slipstream #1 (Rev B): Release Date: 10/03/2013

A mix of Nebula and DREWnet settings all tightly packed into 72Mbps max 24p and around 40-52Mbps for everything else which in my PAL tests SPAN! You also get 80% mode at 24H and iA modes working. NTSC 720p60 and FSH/HBR30p should now span.

1080p24/1080i50/HBR25p/720p50 at GOP 6 1080i60/HBR30p & 720p60 at 12 GOP

Slipstream #2: Release Date: 10/03/2013

Including;-

1080p24H 88Mbps GOP3

FSH1080i50/HBR25p 60Mbps GOP3

720p50 62Mbps GOP6

FSH1080i60/HBR30p 44Mbps GOP12

720p60 52Mbps GOP12

Slipstream #3: Release Date: 15/03/2013

Including THE GH3 MATRIX ON ALL REC MODES;-

1080p24H 150Mbps GOP1 (moon style)

FSH1080i50/HBR25p 70Mbps GOP1

720p50 62Mbps GOP6

FSH1080i60/HBR30p 64Mbps GOP3

720p60 52Mbps GOP12

NB: Ive had one occasion where the camera just freezes with no apparent error. If this happens simply leave the camera alone for a minute or two until it fully writes out to sdcard (emptying all buffers) THEN turn off/battery pull. Hopefully you will notice that all your spanned files are there on next powerup.