I would really love to see the videos of some of these posters, who can't even spell their own name correctly

Intra heaven @200Mbps and 8x8 adaptive transform on the GH4!

Finally, my GH2 Intra Settings have been beaten with the forthcoming release of the GH4. Quite spectacular results show at 24p, 25p/30p & 50p/60p 1080 and with adaptive 8x8 and 4x4 transform the compression requirements under H264 Level High 5.1 profile are adequate and comprehensive enough to allow great pictures with superb motion - much improved.

Here's two pics at 25p showing Intra with a fairly detailed image using around 90Mbps and a death chart proving it fully utilises 200Mbps.

There's nothing mysterious or magical about the skin tone complaints. The rendering of the color on the side of a truck or a building facade isn't going to disturb anyone. Poor color rendition on a face will.

It's understood that there's no such thing as "skin tone", in the abstract. What kind of lighting? What angle? What kind of skin? Etc. But there are common characteristics seen in the way DSLRs render skin, and most people don't find it attractive. This may only mean that they don't find DSLRs appealing generally -- that DSLR issues with compression, low light and color come to a head, as it were, with skin tones. But it's not a big fantasy. Just look at the facial blobs on a lot of GH2 footage.

I just locked down the only shaky shot from Andrew Reid's GH4 footage to pronounce the amount of jello the GH4's rolling shutter will produce in 4K. Done in After Effects using warp stabilizer. Cropped to 1920x1080. Slowed down 400%

original clip
vimeo.com/90683855

@jonpais If you read it concerns 1080p at 25p shooting All-I (Intra) at 200Mbps. I haven't mentioned the 100Mbps 4K in the above!

I really don't know what to think about this thread. Im starting to feel, that one is not allowed to say anything negative about this camera. it's a shame :/

Interesting to see how much better results this camera will deliver with YAGH and ext.recorder. in 4K. Feature-wise it is already way superior over BMPC4K. But we are yet to see RAW from BMPC4k.

So how do any of you guys know what graphics card and what monitor I'm using? Just curious?

@kholi Yes, I totally agree with you. characteristics of the both worlds are there already. There's probably not going to be some mind blowing differences when we see YAGH footage and BMPC4K RAW footage. But it's all about those little differences that it makes to take these two cameras to the next level.

EDIT : Im still amazed about how on earth BM pulled off their almost (perceptually) perfectly cinematic image characteristics a specially with BMCC. And it's not only their color science but absence of these little flaws in the image (like aliasing, edge shimmering, moire, macro blocking, etc, etc...) (Not saying that BM cameras don't have flaws, because they do.)

@blackspot -- They do have flaws, but the only way they did it was by studying the images that everyone wants and putting those into a price that some people could afford.

@boxfx

I think the GH4 has a lot to offer, but in my opinion image isn't one of them. blackspot is right, external recording really won't change anything but I'm giving it the benefit of a doubt... just not with my own money. Anyone's free to disagree.

@vicharris Because unless you're running a $25K 4K DCI monitor you are seeing a rescaled image in one shape or another. Pull the source file into After Effects or an NLE and chop the ends off of the frame and render out to native resolution... you will not see aliasing/moire unless you somehow manage to fuck it up. I've done that myself and the image is unhindered by any moire or aliasing issues.

One last point. I don't see it when I download BMPC footage but I do with some GH4. It's not what my computer is doing.

@mpgxsvcd Ive been happily shooting away on Sandisk Extreme 64Gb cards 95Mbps