25mm F0.95 SLRMagic topic

kermrock

a short video for a short trip to Cappadocia, Turkey. Mostly shot with the aforementioned lens:

vicharris

@kholi I couldn't agree more. I have a complete set of Rokinon Cine Primes I use now if I want that new crisp look and a complete set of SLR Cine lenses is a great choice for another type of look. I have the 12, 25 and 35 and they give a more organic feel and they allow me to shoot in a more inconspicuous manner. I think it's a really good balance.

stoney

SM 25mm and CV 17.5mm complement each other. ebay sells CV 17.5mm new and FS at $940.

kholi

I've been passing the Voigt 25 and SLRMagic 25 back and forth on Blackmagic for the last two days. Nothing crazy to shoot, or amazing (Preproduction takes forever) but just subjectively glancing at the images at various apertures, primarily wide open as this is really why I want an 0.95 to begin with.

Most lenses perform fine beyond F2.4~, to me if a lens is pitched as a fast piece of glass then it should be great wide open, maybe not perfect, but great.

The SLRMagic is clearly optimized to be a wide open performer, and holds onto that until about 2~2.8 before the Voigtlander begins to overtake it. The flare suppression of the Voigtlander definitely helps it retain more contrast before any post manipulation beyond 2~2.8. Below this point, the SLRMagic leads, especially at 0.95 in both daylight and lowlight/night setups.

It's not as if you have to pixel peep, either, it's clear as day which one is sharper wide open.

I'll post DNGs from the camera soon to look at, for now I would say both lenses are pretty strong on the camera and actually do feel like they are for different markets, both have their own unique traits.

I'm VERY happy with the SLRMagic.

DNGs soon.

Oh and on the topic of flares, yes, the SLRMagic flares more than the VOigtlander at every aperture, but to me it's not a deal breaker or even bad. It's just part of the look that it has.

tinyrobot

@P13DM I agree. From examples, the flare seems much less than the 12mm. Even if it has some flare, it could be nice for certain projects, but then I wouldn't throw my Nokton away either.

tinyrobot

For music videos the flare might be an asset.

Manu4Vendetta

For the price the SLR, but every time I see that flare gives me pain in the eyes and continuing saving for Nokton.

@Stonebat, to f1.4 the flare type riple is maintained?

Tobsen

@Stonebat I am in a similar situation now. I love the Voigtländer lenses, but I am really tempted to sell my 25mm Nokton to fund the SLR Magic. Damn...got the 17.5mm and a new 42.5mm is coming up....

stoney

Yes SM 25mm 0.95 has some strange flares. It gets more weird & ugly (fugly) as aperture ring is narrowed. At f/4 or higher, I'd prefer CV 25mm 0.95. This SM lens is really optimized toward the wide aperture like f/2.8 or faster. I wish to keep both lenses, but I had to sell Voigtlander lens to fund for SLRMagic lens.

Manu4Vendetta

Somebody can download the video from kholi at googledrive?

'Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist.'

kholi

@griplimited

You shouldn't have any issues with infinity, what you may encounter are strange reflections but likely that won't be a problem, either.

I'm also pretty amazed at the wide open performance of the 25 HyperPrime. I would say that it's excellent from 0.95 to 5.6, which is where the performance really should be. The lens does have its share of CA, but I can pull nearly one-hundred percent of the CA out in Resolve in less than sixty seconds, so it's a non issue for me.

I know this isn't the topic, but the 12/1.6 looks amazing on Blackmagic, as well. FAR far better than the Tokina 11-16/2.8, wide open.

griplimited

@kholi

that still grab is amazing!

I've been trying to avoid m43 specific lens, but after the 25mm, I'm on the hunt for the 12mm. Bad bad bad.

Does anyone know if the 25mm will lose infinity if you add a 46mm filter, then use 77mm step up with with an ND? I thought I read something like that on the 35mm.

kholi

No cats, I've been trying to get something together to shoot... everything's falling through and I'm still in pre-production on my WebSeries. @mintcheerios -- Yeah Beta Tester, it's been great! I also can't WAIT for 35/0.95 SLRMagic.

Here's a DNG from the 25/0.95 wide open, 800 ISO, 180 shutter -- https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8-f...it?usp=sharing

mintcheerios

@kholi Are you one of the MFT beta testers? So jealous. Now just get the 35mm 0.95 and you'll be invincible.

Aria

@kholi, Ah Man i'm so jealous :) I can just imagine what you can do with those lenses and the BMC. Should clean up those low light shots.

kholi

Been waiting to talk about this for a bit, but absolutely loving the 25/0.95 and 12/1.6 on Blackmagic MFT. Feels and looks amazing. Quick snaps of the two pieces of glass on the camera.

Footage soon.

itimjim

@P13DM I don't think there's a single anamorphic that will suit the 25/0.95. The only models that will give clarity across the frame without vignetting will mean using them at f4 and above (LA7200, Century etc). Isco, Bolex, Kowa, all won't work at 25mm with the Voigtlander or SLRMagic. I don't even think they'll work with the GH3 (slightly larger crop), but there's hope on the BMCC.

I've confined my anamorphic shooting to a rack free zone. It's just a different way of shooting. I'm planning on using a jib to add motion and keep a little more DOF, which as you know MFT is perfect at doing. If I ever get funding, I might plump for a Isco 36 and get on the rack, but until then....no :).

My anamorphic set consists of Canon FD 28/2, 35/2, 50/1.4, 50/3.5 Macro, 85/1.8, 135/2.8, 80-200/4 L, all shot with a Bolex 16/32/1.5x. And I'm using a Tokina 11-16 with an LA7200 for wides.

I'm building a spherical prime set (that will rack focus) using Voigtlander 25/0.95, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 50/1.4 AIS, Samyang 85/1.4. Still to get the 35 and 50.

vicharris

Yep, I'm sure I could have got the 35 closer. It seems to be a little off the other in terms of real T stop measurements.

itimjim

@vicharris, LOL, I've left myself open to getting this wrong now :).

(26.mov): 25
(30.mov): 12
(28.mov): 35

The 12 is pretty easy to spot as there's a tonne of background that can be seen. 25 and 35 would be harder to differentiate without the reflections (you're much smaller in number 3).

vicharris

@itimjim So then which ones are which? :) Do you think you would be able to do it if the reflection wasn't there?

itimjim

@vicharris you can see your reflection in the eyes of the stuffed toy, so it's pretty easy to pick out which is which based on how far you are away from the subject :). 12 and 25 are very similar in terms of contrast and colour. 35 subtly different, but still nice.

vicharris

@nomad That's what I'm thinking. I'm going to add my Nikon 50mm 1.4 AIS to these three and I think I'm good to go for low profile shooting for sure. A 17.5mm would be nice but I'm probably just wasting money that can go into production elsewhere.

nomad

Maybe this 35mm is just fine, focus would be very critical with a 0.95 WO.

vicharris · Screen shot 2013-03-26 at 3.36.59 PM.png

So I decided to shoot a cute little fluffy stuffed animal with all three of my SLR lens so people can see how they cut. I've used the 12mm 1.6, the 25mm .95 and the 35mm 1.4.

All three of the pics have a file number on the top so people can try and pick out each lens. I must say I'm really impressed with the cheap 35mm 1.4 lens.

Shot using Moon 5, 200 ISO at T4.

vicharris

@P13DM Not sure the focus ring in the front is really a new idea :)

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