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H.265 HEVC topic. Same quality, half file size.
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    Atom x5 and x7 based tablets and boxes will play HEVC pretty good, including high bitrate from NX1.

    http://www.ixbt.com/blogs/preview/tronsmart-ara-x5-s-novym-atom-x5-z8300---koloss-na-glinyanyh-nogah.html

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  • On a brighter note, Windows 10 supports H265 natively. Clips from the Samsung NX1 and NX500 show up as thumbnails, just like (outdated) h264 clips. And the native media player plays the H265 clips with no trouble, the smoothness depending on the hardware.

  • Let's just hope the Daala project succeeds in providing a viable, non patent-encumbered alternative.

    (See also:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ietf-standardizes-netvc-daala-codec,28821.html https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/index.html )

  • Could be another technology nobody wants to pay for, a little Iike Foveon. While HEVC Advance hangs out for cash, others do R&D, a codec as efficient as h.265 may not get developed, but it can still be made irrelevant in a number of ways.

  • @JohnTollwannabe

    Original MPEG-LA is really same, just less greedy.

    Corporations now produce thousands of fake patents (mostly on conceptual designs and algorithms - things that must not be patentable). Later they just make standard in such a way so as much patents as possible could be used in litigations.

    Government standards boards of different countries and international organizations just suck their dick in the corner and do not make a sound.

  • Talk about money for nothing! They're like the trolls under the bridge demanding a shakedown from the billy goats trying to get across.

    It also reminds me of Comcast and their antics with Netflix and others.

    Oh, and DIVX from Circuit City.

    Greed has no morals, nor scruples.

  • Greed seems to be wild

    HEVC Advance wants 0.5% of content owners attributable gross revenue for each HEVC Video type.

    HEVC Advance says their licensing terms are “retroactive to date of 1st sale”, so companies would be required to make payments on content they have already distributed using HEVC. In addition to content owners, HEVC Advance is also going after CE manufacturers of TV, mobile and streaming devices. TV manufacturers would have to pay $1.50 per unit and mobile devices incur a cost of $0.80 per unit. Streaming boxes, cable set-top-boxes, game consoles, Blu-ray players, digital video recorders, digital video projectors, digital media storage devices, personal navigation devices and digital photo frames would cost a manufacturer $1.10 per unit.

    Licensing groups typically don’t go after content owners; instead they go to hardware and platform vendors in the market who are customers of content distributors. But in this case, HEVC Advance is going directly after content owners and isn’t asking CDNs, encoding vendors or others in the video ecosystem to license their patents.

    Another big problem is that there are no caps on the proposed royalties. This creates an immense burden for Internet-based technologies and software applications that may be looking to incorporate HEVC, since there is, in most cases, no realistic way of predicting what percentage of your content will be consumed using HEVC each month. Secondly, the 0.5% royalty on all revenues attributable to HEVC-based content is, to put it mildly, a loose cannon.

    http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/new-patent-pool-wants-share-of-revenue-from-content-owners.html

  • "Cinemartin

    The fastest H265 converter, time saving, and easy tool. Free.

    http://mybd.cinemartin.com/"

    This is awesome!

  • AMLogic S912 and S095 will be cheap things supporting H.265, 4K 60fps decoding and HDMI 2.0 output

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    • Quad Core ARM Cortex A53 CPU @ 2.0 GHz with 512KB unified cache.
    • GPU – S905: 5 core Mali-450MP to 750MHz with OpenGL ES 11./2.0 and OpenVG 1.1 support, unnamed 2.5D * 4K@60 Hz video decoding 10-bit HEVC and AVS+ codec support;
    • H.264 up to 4K 30 Hz; 1080p60 H.264 encoding
    • HDMI 2.0 + HDCP 2.2
    • DTS & Dolby support
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  • The HEVC Advance patent pool will address marketplace demand for an additional licensing option of HEVC essential patents. Utilizing a balanced business model for HEVC IP commercialization, HEVC Advance will provide an efficient and transparent means for accessing and licensing HEVC essential patents. HEVC Advance expects to attract a critical mass of intellectual property (IP) holders, with more than 500 essential patents expected to be available for license at launch, with the number of patents expected to grow significantly.

    http://cinescopophilia.com/with-the-hevc-advance-patent-pool-did-4k-video-just-get-more-expensive/

  • At CES, AMD Carrizo was largely demonstrated as a graphics chip for mobile, desktop all-in-ones, and thin tablets. Its heterogeneous architecture will be instrumental in supporting DirectX 12, OpenCL 2.0, AMD's Mantle and Freesync, and Windows 10 across all devices.

    I’ve heard many people say 2015 is the year of 4K….You almost can’t throw enough x86 out there to decode on an HEVC video stream,” McAfee said.

    Carrizo will be able to decode HEVC using only 5% or 6% percent of the CPU; Carrizo-L will not have this feature as OEMS “may not expect 4K to be a part of low-end platforms.”

    http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1325230

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    Rockchip stated that they will have H.265 support in all of their chips, including RK3368, RK3288.

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  • Tegra X1 based devices could also play HEVC 4K videos, up to 60fps.

  • For the fun of it, and to test whether a friend's 4k TV was able to replay it, I recently re-encoded a 4k test video that I had published as h.264 using 32 MBit/s also as a h.265 video using 16 MBit/s:

    While both versions look reasonably good, I cannot completely subscribe to the "same quality at half the size" claim. When I look e.g. at the subtly structured ocher colored outside of the bungalow at 10s into the video, h.264 at 32MBit/s has retained visibly more details than h.265 at 16MBit/s.

    (Encoding was done with x264 and x265 using the default preset, both share most of their core encoding source code, so differences can be attributed to the capabilities of the codec at the bitrates used. The original video recording by the camera was using h.264 at 100MBit/s.)

  • Cinemartin

    The fastest H265 converter, time saving, and easy tool. Free.

    http://mybd.cinemartin.com/

  • @GravitateMediaGroup: VLC supports H.265 playback since at least September 2013 - also on Android (where CPU power might limit the reasonably decodeable image size...).

    And of course, you can use ffmpeg (when compiled with libx265) to transcode whatever intermediate format you like to H.265 (if you don't mind the lengthy encoding time this takes...).

  • I would buy it if it did not have digital rain. At 24p.

  • it's not hot of the press news, but cinemartin has a plugin for h265 to work within premiere pro now. http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/plin/

    they also have something that allows for h265 playback on android devices I think, if anyone cares.

  • We will likely not see broadcast and "streaming services" to catch up in quality to Bluray recordings by using H.265, instead they will continue to serve the same mushy and compression artefact ridden crap as currently at even more insanely low bandwidths.

    H.265 will start from torrents :-) It is already used, btw :-)

    Also good slow encoder can make magic. If x265 will be same polished as x264 it'll be useful.

    All good PCs can play H.265 with partial hardware acceleration.

  • As good as the implementation news around H.265 are, it frightens me they always advertise "same quality at lower bitrate", not "better quality at the same bitrate".

    We will likely not see broadcast and "streaming services" to catch up in quality to Bluray recordings by using H.265, instead they will continue to serve the same mushy and compression artefact ridden crap as currently at even more insanely low bandwidths.

  • H.265 is marching

    MediaTek today announced the MT8127, a performance-leading quad-core tablet System on Chip (SoC) that offers full hardware support for the new HEVC (H.265) video playback standard. Optimized and highly integrated support for H.265 video playback allows videos to play with an average of up to 50 percent less video bandwidth compared to the previous H.264 standard.

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mediatek-announces-mt8127-system-on-chip-with-hevc-video-playback-support-for-quad-core-tablets-261345091.html