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Lincoln11

More analysis and info. on the alleged massacre.

Soon after Russian forces left the town, Ukrainian militants of the so-called territorial defense entered Bucha. They seem to be targeting all men who had no blue armbands.

This was confirmed by the video published by the leader of the Kiev territorial defence, Sergei Korotkov, call-sign “Bossman”, on April 1. In his post he also doesn't mention any massacre or dead bodies.

The video was titled “The work of the Bossman Boys in Bucha”: https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/1084

Mihuel

"The Russian Defense Ministry" - What else, master of lies, would he say? The Russian Mir is a very nice oxymoron. Just like the world's second military power.

Lincoln11

UPDATE:

The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that Kiev’s information about the mass killings in the Ukrainian Bucha is not true, and the footage was staged.

The Russian Defense Ministry stated that all the facts irrefutably confirm that the photos and video frames from Bucha are another staging of the Kiev regime for the Western media, as it was a case in Mariupol with the maternity hospital, as well as in other cities. It was added that:

— All units of the Russian troops completely withdrew from Bucha on March 30, and these shots appeared on the 4th day after that, when SBU officers and representatives of Ukrainian TV arrived there;

— During the stay of Russian soldiers in Bucha, not a single civilian was injured;

— 452 tons of humanitarian aid were delivered and issued to civilians by Russian servicemen in the settlements of the Kiev region.

https://southfront.org/afu-crimes-in-bucha-kiev-region-false-flag-propaganda-attack-against-russia-revealed-photos-video/

Lincoln11

@gunlusting Are you referring to the "Bucha massacre" video and pics? If so some interesting points coming up by independent media folk, such as the fact that the corpses have white armbands. The white armbands are worn to show that they are pro-Russian. Also why were the bodies not gathered into one place for the families to identify? Why no testimonials from the survivors, like in Mariupol? Analysis of the passing car video frame by frame also may show the hand of one of the corpses moving after the car passes, and of another corpse sitting up. Some claim it is water on windshield.

Also of note is that the main video shared is not phone camera footage by bystanders, it is quite well shot footage with a decent camera, taking time to create compositions, framing in the foreground through burnt out car windows.

Could it be a case of Russian maniacs suddenly after a month taking revenge for the brutal treatment of their soldiers by Azov and other nationalist brigades? There has been a lot of horrific footage released by Azov that show them shooting captured soldiers in the knee caps and worse. I don't share those videos. Maybe, but seemingly unlikely given the footage from indie media guys like Lancaster on the ground. The numerous survivor testimonials tell a story quite opposite.

Again, the reason I started this topic was to collect at least some of the barrage of propaganda for us here on the site to take a look at and evaluate. Here is the clip of the car passing the corpses.

https://t.me/realCRP/4125

gunlusting

American media fasists showing Ukainian dead corpses in streets. Most likely that's False Flig scam by USMC marine core. US Marine did it to hurt Russia. Anyone can tell because Russians wont do it.

Lincoln11

Update on Mariana the pregnant girl featured earlier

https://twitter.com/mission_russian/status/1510012837237825545

Lincoln11

Patrick Lancaster is an example of an indie crowdfunded journalist. He is reporting on the ground in Ukraine.

Lincoln11

Looking for all the connections emanating from these stories always ends up linking to a vast network of liberal world order NGOs, elites like George Soros, the CIA, and USAID, and where Ukraine is concerned, almost always to the Embassy of the United Kingdom.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-03-29/real-ukraine-war-not-goody-two-shoes-version

Lincoln11

Lincoln11

Objective coverage is more likely from news reporters abroad-

Eva Bartlett, a Western journalist who exposed the White Helmets in Syria, is interviewed about humanitarian aid by a reporter on the ground for TeleSur.

https://videos.telesurenglish.net/en/content/281967

Lincoln11

Kicking ass and takin' names? This guy says he's a small business owner from the States who is now fighting with the Ukrainian army. Claims to have "killed 200 Russian soldiers". It has a very boomer feel to it.

https://twitter.com/jmvasquez1974?s=21

Lincoln11

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

In a sane world I would agree with you, but Russia was forced into this action because the other side does not acknowledge truth or evidence. They create their own reality and blast it non-stop on the "international community", triggering people's good nature to feel bad for suffering. This is a racket that they have been using since the end of WWII, and it overrides truth to the Western audience, giving way to irrational hatred of Russians. It is the "Mighty Wurlitzer" on wifi.

I read a day ago that hatred for Russians has surpassed the hatred for Japanese in World War II. That is the truth now not an "issue".

8 years of truth telling, pleading and Minsk agreements did not stop the shelling of civilians in Donetsk, 14,000 civilians dead. I have been watching this play out since 2014, and despite the truth, nobody gave a shit. I am amazed at how "humanitarian" everyone has become now that they are being programmed to be so.

Why do people keep referring to Russia's actions to keep missiles and NATO off it's border as "some prick who wants an empire" with his "barbaric hordes" (subhumans)? That's the truth?

It is not an "issue", it is the modus operandi of war mongers to impose death on the civilians of their choosing. Russia is just exercising the only option left to it in the world of reality. Reality has consequences.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@Mihuel

I am with @Mihuel here as I know some of people from Ukraine who fled their homes, it is lots of them.

Idea is to tell the truth, not to cover issues.

Mihuel

2 million refugees is Pixel? 2 million people is a part of what? Happiness? Russia brings joy and happiness? What am I supposed to think that some prick in Russian onuces wants an empire and that is why he orders his hordes to kill women and children? I invite you to an interview with people who fled from Ukraine.

garroulus

@Mihuel

"if their fate is a media scam"

Of course it's not a scam...but this is just a pixel of what...maybe a 100 M...or maybe a gigapixel picture???

F...you have a soul and a brain...just think for yourself.

Mihuel

Come to Przemysl, to the railway station. I invite you to Warsaw, to the central station. Ask all these tired people personally if their fate is a media scam. It's easy to be a symmetrist when you have a roof over your head and the barbaric hordes don't destroy your country. I understand that such symmetry is intended to justify Russian crimes?

Lincoln11

Ukraine 90210

Lincoln11

Behind Ukraine’s public relations effort is an army of foreign political strategists, Washington DC lobbyists, and a network of intelligence-linked media outlets. According to the anonymous figure, more than 150 public relations firms have joined the propaganda blitz.

The international effort is spearheaded by public relations firm PR Network co-founder Nicky Regazzoni and Francis Ingham, a top public relations consultant with close ties to the UK’s government. Ingraham previously worked for Britain’s Conservative Party, sits on the UK Government Communication Service Strategy and Evaluation Council, is Chief Executive of the International Communications Consultancy Organisation, and leads the membership body for UK local government communicators, LG Comms.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/ukraine-propaganda-war-international-pr-firms-dc-lobbyists-cia-cutouts/280012/

Lincoln11

A more conventional approach

Celebrity culture has been waning in the last few decades, most of the stars these days don't have much staying power. Celebrity statements in the past were often a devastatingly effective tool, as Hollywood is how most people around the world see the US. Arnold is a global superstar to those over 40, and has been outspoken about the "insurrection" of Jan 6. Here is his personal video to the Russian people, the full nine minutes. He opens up with a personal story, that is touching and disarming.

Following this, a young Russian girl, Maryana Naumova tells her own personal story of meeting Arnold when she was 15 at the Arnold Classic competition in 2015. She tells how she gave Arnold an envelope of letters from all the children in Donbass asking him for help from the continuous shelling of their homes and schools. She asks if he has ever read those letters, to see their side.

Both are well written and emotional. This is the power of media today, where individuals armed with a digital camera and competent skillset can create content to tell their own stories, as well as on the ground reporting with a phone and telegram. These days as @muddmanrich said "the mainstream media IS utter bullshit and brainwashes the public", it seems our only chance at getting to the truth is through each other and sorting the shit out, whichever side you may be on, without the histrionic triggers.

Arnold, being Arnold has 98,191 views. Maryana has 1308. It's still David vs. Goliath, but with a bigger rock and sling.

Lincoln11

And along that line-

Lincoln11

That's the whole point isn't it? Whether it was up for an hour or up for a week, this is the state of information these days, create an emotional response and it's done it's work. So yeah thanks, but it is propaganda.

muddmanrich

@Lincoln11 while the mainstream media IS utter bullshit and brainwashes the public with a false narrative, spreading false information such as this only harms, not helps. There was never an official dedicated CNN Afghan or CNN Ukraine Twitter account. Both accounts got suspended an only ever had a few hundred followers. Like you said, use your head to find the truth... not spew regurgitated sh*t.

tida

@Vitaliy_Kiselev, thanks for caring about my health.

I'm happy about the new 10 million actors, soon spreading all over the world...

Lincoln11

@tida What are you talking about? People die and there is suffering. Just not the ones they parade in front of you.

We are in 2022, this is the most powerful media weapon in history and they are using the same methods that have increased the suffering of people all over the world, not just "your guys". They can censor entire networks, presidents and anyone who goes against the agenda. The only chance you have to find the truth is to use your head. That's all.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@tida

Please do not consume so much weed next time, ok?

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