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Official Final Cut X topic, moving to ARM and vlogging
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  • alcomposeralcomposer

    OK,... after using FCPX & Motion5 for a few gigs proper now... I have to say this, in no order do ALL.

    1. Update your graphics card NOW if you use FCPX. Needs at least 1gig VRam.
    2. Fill up your RAM
    3. Make sure you have a multicore.
    4. Lion drivers a nice for newer graphics cards (I believe)
    5. Be happy that FCPX will completely eat this for breakfast (something that FCP7 would never have done!) End transmission.
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Useful links about latest upgrade

    http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/ssimmons/story/kicking_the_tires_on_final_cut_pro_x_10.0.3_multicam/ http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/mspencer/story/25_camera_angles_in_25_minutes/

    Also we had separate topic

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1364/-fcp-update-2012-10.0.3#Item_51

  • sohussohus
    Manual media reconnection is indeed a nightmare. But I hope that Apple will fix this as this could turn into a nightmare and ruin an entire project if something goes wrong. This must need to be fixed.

    About monitoring: I think Apple's ColorSync solution is superior to what competitors are offering:
    http://www.philiphodgetts.com/2011/09/fcp-x-color-management-secret/

    I also think the audio roles can be superior in the feature. Tracks are old fashioned: metadata is where we are all going and whoever disputes that will be very disappointed in the years to come.
  • arvidtparvidtp
    Just trying out the trial now. Some stuff is awesome. But no manual media reconnection! That could become a nightmare on some of my projects. I often work with audio files pre-mixed in logic that need to be updated later to fix things/add things and animations rendered out from Max/MSP/Jitter that sometimes want to be re-rendered… These things FCP X cannot yet handle.

    If Apple adds manual media reconnection, I'll buy. Until then I'm sticking with Final Cut Express (with Motion 5 to do my smoothing and optical flow retiming).
  • alcomposeralcomposer
    Hi Guys,...

    I am actually watching the FCPX debate from the outside right now and I can see that Apple has not just filled a market, but actually FCP7 WAS not what most people needed to edit. I do know that for the last 5 years people have been moving to Sony Vegas due to its integrated environment (audio and video editing). FCPX is simply Apples answer to Vegas- which has become a much loved piece of software.

    As for large post houses- as long as there is a framework there in Cocoa - then they all have programmers there that could probably whip up a plugin within a month that could handle EDL- XML etc... the way they like it... so really what is there to complain about....? (my only annoyance is outputting to an external monitor properly - but hopefully that will be fixed...)

    Bottom line: Editing software should be about EDITING faster- with more preview abilities (clip position) I for one think that Apple has pulled this off... Now 2 things need to happen: Version 1.1 needs to come out- and people need to stop complaining.
  • jokieonejokieone
    I think that Apple really has filled up an empty market with Final Cut Pro X. There is no reason to hunt for AVID. As I see they could either have gone for the top end market, which consists 99% of Avid, from my own experience. Or they could have gone for AE/Premiere, which also would have been foolish. I am glad we can finally see a reasonable priced software. Hopefully it will push some pressure on AVID to lower their price. Heck, even professional editing companies use pirated AVIDS these days.
  • Brian202020Brian202020
    @jimtreats
    Yeah I read that elsewhere as well. There goes my theory. I just deleted it, reinstalled it, and got it over with.

    Also, in case anyone is interested, it seems there is a solution for importing FCP7 XML's into FCPX after all. You'll need CatDV 9.0.1. With that app you can import FCP7 XML's into CatDV and then output the new FCPX Rich XML. So far there are a few issues tho, It doesn't send clips with speed changes. There are probably a few other exceptions as well, but it's a step in the right direction. Test is out, there it a trial version.
    http://www.squarebox.co.uk/download1.html
  • jimtreatsjimtreats
    @Brian202020

    I brought Final Cut Pro X on Snow Leopard, just upgraded to Lion at the weekend and upgraded Final Cut to 10.0.1 last night. Just ran it now and its running fine. So I don't think the steps you describe are a guaranteed recreate for the problems.

    As for losing the 5 computers per license, surely there is some official way you can remove the app that frees up the install license, its something i've never looked into but there has to be a way, just like you can deauthorise machines within iTunes??

    I'm looking forward to the improvements and continuing to learn how to use the thing.
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    ok, so there are advanced color and shape masking tools for color grading . . . took a wile to find 'em . . . I gotta say, for the one-man-crew creatives like myself, this is a very capable and powerful tool. I still need to figure the bast way to keep clips organized, though.
  • Brian202020Brian202020
    Not sure if you guys are having issues updating FCPX like me and a lot of others around the web are. It seams the fix is to put FCPX in the trash, and install it again. There is a concern doing this will take away one of the 5 computers per license you can install it on but who know's for sure. I have a theory on why FCPX wont update for some people. I think if you purchased FCPX and are still on the same Mac OS when you purchased it, it'll update fine. Example: If you Purchased FCPX and you were on Snow Leopard and are still on Snow Leopard it should update fine, also if you were on Lion when you purchased FCPX it should also update fine. I believe the reason people are having issues updating FCPX is because they were on Snow Leopard when they purchased FCPX and updated the OS to Lion and are now trying to update FCPX. I bet it's a bug in FCPX, Lion, and/or the App Store that can't tell that the Mac is the same Mac after the OSX update. Just a theory, but I've called my friends and asked them and it seems to be the case with everyone I know.
  • sohussohus
    I love this update. Fixes some minor issues, full screen support and a clear message that they are committed to the professional user. All I need right now. I love working with this software and see a bright feature.

    And early 2012 (multicam + professional monitoring) is around the corner already... almost october.
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    Hey, I got the trial . . . can't import .mts files independent of the card structure, so you have to have the card itself or a disk image of the card to import .mts

    also, they say the color corrections stuff is more powerful and that Color is built in now, but I can't seem to find any overly advanced color stuff, just basic selectors very much in the same vein as 3-way color corrector. anybody know where I find the advanced stuff (note, I did get a histogram, which was useful)
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    Also remember that 30 day trial is available
    http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/trial/
  • AriaAria
    Also they say the next update will deal with Multicam and Broadcast Video output. It was only a matter of time before Apple started addressing the issues some had. It was still a great move to totally revamp the code, cuz going forward the platform will benefit from more modern underpinnings.
  • HallvallaHallvalla
    Also, a free 30 day trial.
  • everoevero
    Final Cut Pro X update 10.0.1 adds XML support, GPU accelerated export, Camera import SDK and some other features.
    http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/software-update.html
  • Nigel785Nigel785
    Really? Well considering it's only speculation, I'll disagree. Comparing Steve to Bill is sacrilegious at least coming from an avid steve fan. But they've said there working on things, allowing users to add features and tools la carte to give "Pro" what they need. BTW on a new i7 machine, FCPX screams...its still early but I'll think they're be improving it.
  • stoneystoney
    Bill Gates left MSFT after releasing .NET framework 1.0 which was debuted as the "future" of programming platform. All .NET books from O'Reilly had sea creatures on covers to symbolize the world dominance as ocean covers most of surfaces. It never happened. Microsoft would need to be broken into smaller companies. Gates left Microsoft at the peak.

    Jobs stepped down. I'm speculating that Apple would follow similar path. FCP X is Apple's .NET framework 1.0. I wouldn't expect much from future versions of FCP X.
  • No_SuRReNDeRNo_SuRReNDeR
    Just got CS Premiere 5.5 I like the idea of no transcoding, 64 bit....but Ive been a Final Cut user for a long time although Avid I still use for certain projects too--if I just need a quick turnaround, with basic color correction and simple editing.I havent been on Premier since Premiere Pro 1.5 ...wow lot has changed.
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    @timbook2

    I think that you made up my position and after this disagree with it :-)
    My position is simple - for Apple it is good.
    For most other our forum members it is good also.
    First, for under 400 you can get software much more adopted for single man team.
    Second, if you do not like previous situation, thanks for FCP X for under $400 you can get Adobe Pro CS 5.5.
    For me it looks like win-win. For large production houses - I am not so sure. This bastards are now buying Adobe Suites in big amounts as I understand situation.
  • timbook2timbook2
    Vitaliy you know you are my hero for the things you said in the film about obsolescense from that french girl loong time ago! I highly respect your opinions on most things. But I disagree about apples move with fcpx as being good and the right thing. For apple maybe yes, they are turning into a gadget corp with iXXX products and the next generations in mind. they also want to generate internet bandwidth and earn on that which is why iphones in australia make up 50% of internet traffic already ( and steve earns on each mb of data streamed), so to say bye bye to professional video editors is a logical move, no advanced form of astrology. So now we have a stripped down version for half the price which can probably be upgraded by buying extra add-ons and in some time maybe even be compatible to what fcp7 was able to do BUT: only 2 months ago apple representatives went to large post pro housesin various EU countries and convinced them to buy servers and licenses for fcp7, telling them (now) obvious lies about up-and backwards compatibility! that is brutal! as brutal as you can get!
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    If you're a Final Cut editor contemplating making a change in the wake of Apple's FCPX roll-out, you're not alone. Here's one long-time Final Cut user who tried out Adobe Premiere CS5.5 on a paying gig. He found a lot to like, and not much to miss.
    by Helmut Kobler

    http://library.creativecow.net/kobler_helmut/FCP-vs-Premiere-Pro/1
  • TheNewDealTheNewDeal
    When you are working on 1.6 processors of 32 bit, and it's already been years, it can be really frustrating...
  • RomeoRomeo
    Thanx Stray for the feedback,
    I know what you mean but I think studios will take a while to upgrade anyway and that's why I think FC X is aimed at individuals in this first release. I think the under_the_hood technology that goes in X is what is gonna prove a necessity in the near future...

    - I also think that OS X Lion is gonna make FC X shine (native edit will see great benefits as right now it's still preferable if not mandatory to transcode just like before but in the bg...)
    - Machines with SSD will also make the FC X approach instant on
    - I guess also that the Thunderbolt technology has something to do with the abandonment of Final Cut Server (it will probably replace it's functionality at a fraction of the price)

    I know it's a lot of "guessing" but I kinda hope for the best in the future... In that sense I can envision that it will be much easier/cheaper to start a "studio business" in the future if editors are granted to use their software wherever they work and thunderbolt raid drives can act like server farms...

    Apple has weird/irritating ways of doing stuff and it's been awhile that people have been waiting for the update, that's why so much discontentment.
    But if you remember, the first iPhone didn't even have a video camera! It also didn't have any other apps rather than the ones that came bundled with it. Look how great things turned out to be in just 4 years!
    What I mean is that Apple is providing a good solid base for editing and either the community and/or Apple themselves will expand on that base. The APIs and developers kit stuff are out now so it totally makes sense that third parties are gonna jump on and provide interesting solutions to expand on the collaboration capacities of the software.
  • stoneystoney
    lol. FCPX has a dedicated menuitem for Vimeo uploading?
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