@kurth

I think it is showing level of modern science.

We have lot of people who can write meaningless articles into journals but very few who can actually do useful things.

This also concerns vaccine development, btw.

Eleven military bases near major airports in the United States are setting up quarantine centers for possible coronavirus patients, the Department of Defense said.

The Department of Health and Human Services asked the Pentagon for quarantine space in case beds fill up at other coronavirus centers around the country, according to a DOD statement.

Chinese National Health Commission quietly changed its definition of Coronavirus “confirmed case” in the latest guideline dated 7/2. As a result, going forward patients who tested positive for the virus but have no symptoms will no longer be regarded as confirmed.

so I'll drop a highly speculative(hopefully) theory based on worst case numbers that have been floating around the last couple of days. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population .... and chinese whistleblowers are throwing out a 16% death rate figure, not the official numbers. So take those two stats(?) and where do we go. Well we might speculate that the 16% could even get worse, because chinas still working with a nominally functioning healthcare system, or the virus could mutate, or it could get better if they develop treatment, a working vaccine, and clamp down even harder on travel...but let's use 15%. I think that's why we're seeing china using authoritarian mechanisms to coverup the situation. China has approx 1.4billion people so approx 125 million could die just in china alone! That doesn't preclude that many of those infected might not fully recover. So in china we're talking calamity, and most likely a collapsed system. The healthcare system is already in collapse. I would speculate china's govt would collapse and return to a hardline maoist closed society and their capitalist experiment would end. This of course at minimum would throw the world into a serious global depression. If we extrapolate those numbers worldwide, we're talking global civilizational collapse. That would make a 630 million death number world wide. If 60% of India and Pakistan become infected , which don't have sufficient health care systems, they would go fullblown anarchy. Most likely that would bring about a nuclear conflict between them. That's where it would start and it would most likely not be isolated, because every country would be facing the same crisis. Saudi Arabia ruling junta would collapse and be followed by all the middle east oil reserves going belly up. The usa's military couldn't rise to that level of crisis. That would lead to Israel's greedy claws attempting to fulfill it's endtime mythologies and expand wars at least all the way to Turkey, Egypt and to Libya. They'd probably use their nukes. That would probably bring Nato against Russia into nuclear conflict and then with the usa and all 5 eyes. It would certainly bring about Israel's ...and those crazy american religious christian zeolots that follow the zionist endtime scenario, into achieving their armageddon. Africa would go tribal and South America would probably go into anarchy. Brazil, Chile, Columbia and Venezuela would collapse into chaos, and Central America as well. Perhaps Costa Rica would survive as the safest place in the Americas. Mexico would be invaded by the usa, if the usa didn't itself have a civil war, and then Mex would go orderless. It's there now already in certain parts of the country. Cia has been smuggling armament into the hands of the cartels for over 2 decades. And 300 million american guns are just waiting for their chance to dance. Now that's my take on the worst case scenario. There are lots of mitigating factors that might prevent the world from killing itself, but as well, we've built a house of cards civilization. If the 60% world wide infection is avoided, by any number of means, China is still facing a survival level threat, if the deathrate is that high. And if it's because the virus was weaponized and infects asians at a higher rate, then all of the orient could fall. That cruise ship in Hong Kong is a litmus test, and it doesn't look good. Mongolia, Southeast Asia , Indonesia , the philippines would be the worst. Japan would most likely go Shogun, completely close off it's islands. Yeah...no more cameras and computers. Used would sell for far more than we paid new. The end of the church of the technocracy. The elite technocrats would have left for mars already. This is complete speculation based on flimsy information. Take it with a grain. But,yeah...I bought a box of n95 masks. If I don't need them for this, then for certain another 12 monkeys scenario will come to pass, if not for me then for my kids and grandkids ! If not engineered biological threats then someone's bound to start a big war. I think the elites know all this already. You can see the signs. But even the billionaires new zealand underground bunkers wouldn't save them. Now I'm gonna go play some music on my new piano !

right on the mark...no pun intended....https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sudden-militarization-wuhans-p4-lab-raises-new-questions-about-origin-deadly-covid-19

Coronavirus known as the sudden death.

@endotoxic ....as the public is beginning to finally learn...people can't trust governments. What we're seeing in china isn't the govt trying to save people, it's the govt trying to save itself. I don't think china's actions would be unique to china if other countries become equally affected. I still lean towards the virus being designed, accidentally or not, to be more serious against asians. There's still no virus in latin america or africa, and only a handful in india. However what the virus does itself in it's new genetic life is out of our control. It could mutate into something even worse. Govt's have been playing russian roulette with this shit for years. It was bound to happen. Like I said....I bought a box of masks ...cause if you wait until you really need them, there won't be any left. And exactly how much risk any person is in, depends on where they live. If it really goes global, it will affect urban areas far worse. And from the US's response , where they're actually converting military bases....well, that's not showing us a good sign. China is screwed already, and it will affect the economy everywhere. But ... now , it's like that old cheap circus roller coaster that's out of control....quien sabe ?

https://twitter.com/GlobalTimesBiz/status/1228175456630759425

@endotoxic ....welcome to the real world

Food prices

In coming weeks we'll see how capitalism base in China will attempt to destroy opportunists superstructure.

Reverse thing can also happen where we'll see left wing coup and fast capitalism removal in China.

Well, everyone is blaming Wuhan and China anyways. The released evacuees may already be spreading it. And many people are returning through Thailand, Japan etc and not mentioning they came from China. No quarantine. Social media has a lot of people calling to nuke China! And two B-52 bombers just flew near Taiwan! Long time rumour, China has built huge underground cities somewhere :)