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What do we know about the novel coronavirus?
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  • Nike Inc. said it has closed about half of its company-owned stores in China as a result of the coronavirus outbreak, which it expects to have a “material impact” on its operations in the country.The stores that remain open are operating at reduced hours, as retail traffic has dropped as a result of the outbreak.

    Nike is the first big consumer company to cite “material” impact from the virus on its business in China. While Starbucks Corp. has closed half of its stores -- about 2,000 in total -- and Apple Inc. said it will have an impact on its supply chain, most major corporations have said it’s too to soon to assess the financial effect from the rapidly spreading epidemic.

  • KOREA: Hyundai, Kia suspend some production lines amid coronavirus-triggered crunch

    SEOUL, Feb. 4 (Yonhap) -- Hyundai Motor Co. and its sister Kia Motors Corp. said Tuesday they have suspended some of their assembly lines here due to shortages of parts from China amid the spreading coronavirus outbreak.

    Hyundai Motor halted the assembly lines for the production of the carmaker's independent brand Genesis's sedan models at its No. 5 plant in Ulsan, 414 kilometers southeast of Seoul, from Tuesday, a company spokesman said over the phone.

    The company and its union also have agreed to gradually suspend assembly lines at the remaining four plants in Ulsan by Friday, with its two other domestic plants, in Jeonju and Asan, also scheduled to halt operations by the same day, he said.

    https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200204002651320

  • The problem with this doctor is he's using official chinese data from this site. There's enough leaked information conflicting with this data concerning deaths to take his analysis with a grain of salt. As well, beyond china's controlled social environment, chinas own actions reflect a much more serious scenario. Perhaps that's a point in favor of the idea that the virus leaked from their lab, because if they had proof it came from another source, such as a bioweapon used by the empire, they wouldn't be downplaying. And apparently china has a new law threatening their citizens with 7 yr jailterms if they spread unofficial info....a suspicious sign to any free information lovers. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 added this ...https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

  • Z Cam mentioned they're delaying their return from the new year holidays due to the virus.

    Wouldn't be surprised if we see stock shortages and thus perhaps price inflation for some products due to the virus interfering with manufacturing in China. If you want to order something from China, do it sooner rather than later!

    The problem with this doctor is he's using official chinese data from this site.

    NO WAY do I believe "official" data from the Chinese government.

    Won't even believe economic data they report, and definitely do not believe anything they're saying about the coronavirus without a very BIG grain of salt!

  • @IronFilm

    As it'll be time for NZ or Australia, you'll be surprised by horrible coverups by officials and behavior of large business.

    If you want to order something from China, do it sooner rather than later!

    And this is really bad advice. As it is almost no movement now for goods via Chinese post. HK works much better, but also slowing.

    Most sellers also try not to go to post office at all costs.

  • As it'll be time for NZ or Australia, you'll be surprised by horrible coverups by officials and behavior of large business.

    Already seen lying / dodging the truth / lack of transparency happening here in NZ with the virus and our government / health boards / hospitals.

    And this is really bad advice. As it is almost no movement now for goods via Chinese post.

    For sure, ordering last month would be better than doing it today! But today is better than ordering tomorrow, if there is something you really need from China specifically. As it will only get worse before it gets better. And we'll see big backlogs.

  • When the United States 2009 H1N1 swine flu emerged, an international emergency, a declared global pandemic, it eventually infected 60 million and initially killed a minimum of 18,449 cases that year. But the final story of the H1N1 global pandemic was far worse than that, with close to 300,000 deaths, according to the final tallies in 2012 reported by the CDC...

    The U.S. H1N1 swine flu numbers ( in 2009 ) were vastly underestimated and updated three years later, … that is the nature of such viral outbreaks which don't care which country they started in. There is never enough man power, there are never enough test kits, there is never enough medicine or medical supplies.

    According to the June 27, 2012 research report ... the CDC's 18,449 total deaths number was ... regarded as WELL BELOW THE TRUE TOTAL, mainly because many people who die of flu-related causes are not tested for the disease." So during the 2009 outbreak, was anyone accusing the American medical and government authorities of hiding the numbers? Were Americans with hidden cameras strolling into the Mayo Clinic to PROVE how many people were really dying? 

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2012/06/cdc-estimate-global-h1n1-pandemic-deaths-284000

    It's difficult to get real statistics...here's what the CDC says about flu death stats:

    Does CDC know the exact number of people who die from seasonal flu each year?

    CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual flu illnesses or deaths among people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications. Third, many flu-related deaths occur one or two weeks after a person’s initial infection, either because the person may develop a secondary bacterial co-infection (such as bacterial pneumonia) or because influenza can aggravate an existing chronic illness (such as congestive heart failure or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease). Also, most people who die from flu-related complications are not tested for flu, or they seek medical care later in their illness when influenza can no longer be detected from respiratory samples.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

  • Some optimism

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  • Workers prepare beds at a makeshift hospital in the Hongshan Gymasium in Wuhan, Central China’s Hubei Province, yesterday. Wuhan, the epicenter of the novel coronavirus outbreak, is racing to create more temporary hospitals to cope with the surging number of patients infected with the virus. Wuhan has converted an exhibition center into a hospital with 1,800 beds. As of yesterday afternoon, conversion work had started on 10 other venues, including gymnasiums, sports centers and a high school. They can provide a total of over 10,000 beds

    http://szdaily.sznews.com/PC/layout/202002/06/node_01.html#content_816450

  • Guangzhou, the capital of China's southwestern Guangdong Province and the country's fifth largest city with nearly 15 million residents, has just joined the ranks of cities imposing a mandatory lockdown on all citizens, effectively trapping residents inside their homes, with only limited permission to venture into the outside world to buy essential supplies.

  • However, the world is facing severe disruption in the market for personal protective equipment.
    Demand is up to 100 times higher than normal and prices are up to 20 times higher.
    This situation has been exacerbated by widespread, inappropriate use of PPE outside patient care.
    As a result, there are now depleted stockpiles and backlogs of 4 to 6 months.

    Guy just do not want to tell you also how they destroyed most factories and moved most of masks production to China.

    Say big thanks to ruling class.

  • Among the group of 138 patients, 26% required intensive care and 4.3% died, higher than other, broader estimates of fatality from the virus. Just 47 patients, or about one-third of the total, have been discharged.

  • According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a temperature above 167 degrees Fahrenheit or 75 degrees Celsius is sufficient to kill influenza viruses. This temperature is often cited as lethal against viruses in general.

    Moreover, an elevated body temperature can thwart viruses. This is the reason the human body reacts to infection by raising its own temperature. Consequently, having a fever isn't always a bad thing; it helps kill the viruses that are making the patient sick. While prescribing antibiotics is not effective for a viral infection, a variety of chemical agents work to destroy viruses on contact, including bleach, hydrogen peroxide and alcohol.

    In a hospital, you will probably be in a cold room with a thin blanket, have minimal food and lukewarm tea or cold water, surrounded with other sick people. Bright lights and noise may keep you from sleeping. Overworked nurses and doctor may only check in on you once or twice a day. This may contribute to a slow recovery! At home you can have quiet sleep wrapped in a hot electric blanket, take multiple hot baths or showers, hot drinks, nutritional supplements, fresh air, and drink a lot of alcohol ! Don't drink bleach or hydrogen peroxide! And you might have a cat who will check to see if you're OK every ten minutes! ( this is not medical advice :) !)

  • In a hospital, you will probably be in a cold room with a thin blanket, have minimal food and lukewarm tea or cold water, surrounded with other sick people. Bright lights and noise may keep you from sleeping.

    I am assure you that relatively rich (it all depends on place) people in good hospitals can have exact opposite of this. Personal warm room where you can turn off lights and remove light from windows.

    Issue with present virus is that up to 25% require medical assistance and air ventilation for lungs.

    So, for now we don't see proper picture as around 80% of countries have much worse hospitals compared to China and around 90% of countries have much worse discipline and organization.

  • and this is how it looked even at night not long ago

  • Most people still think that it is nothing bad to let Apple, Google and alike to spend huge resources and produce trillions of dollars of waste, instead of making good living instead of extra dense cities (that are good for large factories only!) and spend resources on things that really matter.