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Karl Marx
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  • Good. Idea on paper, not able to Implement.

  • Good. Idea on paper, not able to Implement.

    LOL

  • endotoxic,

    Interesting nickname, but your very presence here would apparently rule out implementation. You are welcome to your opinions, of course, especially given Marx's biennial. I only wish you had actually perused even a chapter of the man's work, which you obviously haven't. Now be honest... The "Manifesto" is not the best place to start, or even necessary to understand his ideas. For that you will have to invest the time and energy in reading "Das Kapital", which can be had cheaply -- in virtually any language -- on Amazon. I am neither a formal Marxist or communist, but as a work of pure human intellect, it is astonishingly prescient.

  • The "Manifesto" is not the best place to start, or even necessary to understand his ideas.

    Yet it is quite simple and useful if you have brain filled with mass media induced stuff. Plus do not take much time to read.

  • as a work of pure human intellect, it is astonishingly prescient.

    That is what I respect. Indeed is an example to follow, and do more researching, But to implement..... Haven't Been successfully done Karl.

    I'm ignorant by assumptions of yours, dear @sherwood, and by no means I want to confront your thoughts in that regard. I find it comfortable being ignorant to others, since makes me appreciate with blind eyes the nature of things, thus understanding with no inclination.

    Your tone and response are clear indicator as Vitaliy too, that the need for impose thoughts is indeed a need. Free thought is far much interesting to follow, than the scritunity of the thoughts of others. Compartmentalise thoughts, is what makes wars, just like religion, sounds like a doctrine to respect and follow. Marxist, leninist, communism, socialism, capitalism, all thoughts of men for the sake of power.

    Reading C. I. A books counter intelligence, war tactics, study history of wars, that is action made history... That is understanding anthropology at its finest. thoughts over population and action. That pussy shit of analize the thought of men, and stablish a preconceived perception of rule, that is for only thinkers psilosophers, they don't go out there and apply and rule the world, the die in small rooms and by hatred of others.

    As you said, is an interesting read, but only to persive the bigger picture, buy itself marks can't handle its own. It's like reading the interpretation off thoughts by Sigmund, that fuck was on cocine and the shit he wrotes its incredibly ubber dreamy shit. Interpretation of what???..... I. Use bad words cos enhance my communication :)

    By that... reading all books or understanding upper layers of things and the thinking of others won't make any diference in your interpretation. since all are your core values, all that represent the escence of your being, thus limiting yourself to understanding, by values someone inducted you to belive. That is your stop rout, can't go further.

    You want to really understand things , get rid of those good values, act like a fucking psicopat, you will understand that no limits is the way it was and it will always be, that's. How biggers rule. Not giving a shit about behaviour, and applying hard and direct orders to population all that without core values, let the people do the. Values, let them set their own limit.

    Fuck Karl in that respect study more how really its done, how united stated can handle. All its population in a dream coma state, of course they are converting in a fascist country, at the end, is being able to rule at the expense of adoctrinating others to think like one wants.

    @Sherwood I manage a big proyect in lima. We create distribute and expose the information for over 3 million people every day approximately 30 minutes of their life are mine, they can't move or make shit only listen and see on TV until the arrive home and use the app with has gamification inside so they earn things while. Paying good money for offers or sales. We Programm them while waiting inside the bus . on the bus Central Station I manage the content and make them belive share sweat and dream. In a month I mange to impose formation to more than 90 million people. We Programm people. In those, buses, give them circus and bread. We get data and control over their dreams and thoughts thanks to the app. A complete intelligent distribution of information from 6am to 10pm. All this system. Was designed by me and impemmemented by the government. We can change political thinking in a week. Read about peru more and see how corupt is politics.

    Fee booms... offers From restaurants, low prices, all free on the app. Be the avatar on Real life, but give me your data.

    Facebook know how to make it. They Don read Karl old fashioned view.

    Want to really understand how people react and follow, what they like and how they live, understand that those old fashioned books only work for basic understanding. Governabity and control of masses now is a trend, and no Karl is givvins new ideas or making the. Work easier.

    I read not so much as both of you, but I think I have more. Know. How on how to manage social states and people. Please underestimate me. I. Know nothing.

  • Well, interesting.

    Governabity and control of masses now is a trend, and no Karl is givvins new ideas or making the. Work easier.

    I can assure you that as soon as elites and their servants will be standing under tree and looking at the hanging ropes they suddenly can change point of view on people.

    It'll require smart people and organized party as vanguard to put science and give direction, but it'll be same "easy to control" people who will do it.

  • I agree with you Vitaliy. Elites on near future will be under tree, and from their own hands, not the people. That would be interesting.

    About technology and organised party...

    The truth is weird than fiction

  • basic read for starters. Good points on failures with strong cases.

    Engineering Perspectives of Human Society: Application of Control Theory, Game Theory, and Information Theory to Social Phenomena.

    https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1636

  • @endotoxic

    I checked lot of such books.

    All of ones I saw are crap. It is like drunk barmen who try to explain how complex engine works.

  • Lol, you are right. Some things can't be properly explained. Just a good discussion with a right concealment is better than any book.

  • Better than reading books: Open your eyes to reality that surrounds you.

  • Better than reading books: Open your eyes to reality that surrounds you.

    And after this sit and cry :-) Well, pretty useless proposition.

  • Leninists never cry!

  • @hini

    It may be wise to shut up, get the money, and run.