If one looks at the design, and specs they are almost identical, (I am assuming that the BOYA is heavily inspired by AT).

Does anyone have any experience with either unit? I haven't been able to find any discussion on-line regarding these two extremely similar units.

BOYA SPECS:

Audio Technica SPECS:

LINKS:

http://www.boya-mic.com/lavaliermicrophones/741.html

https://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/697235da7c34d03d/index.html

I thought I'd share the results as a good lavalier is essential for any solo dslr shooter and produces much better quality than an onboard shotgun and it's really hard to tell what's better from youtube tests given their crappy compressed audio.

First, a general note -- the RODEs, tram and saken all completely spanked the me-2, which should not be a surprise, though it was surprising just how much better they sounded. The ME-2 was just soo thin sounding. So, knowing I was going to walk out of there with a new lav of some sort, I started comparing them, side by side, in different sound environments for the next two hours (all tests were done with a sound devices mixer and sony studio headphones). Here are the results:

BEST SOUND QUALITY

Sanken COS11 -- no suprise, it's the most expensive as well. There's a reason it is used by high end documentaries and most television and film. But is it good for a solo DSLR shooter? If time and money are no issue, then yes, but if they are, here are a few drawbacks:

• Higher Handling Noise. It takes careful mounting to conceal this lav and tape down the wire since both the microphone and the wire are very sensitive to handling noise. If you got the time, or you are mainly doing sit-down interviews, you'll be rewarded, but if you need a lav (as I mainly do) for filming moving subjects solo, it may not be the best choice.

• Costly aftermarket adaptors. Okay, not that costly, but you're looking at $30 - $50 to modify it for use with a g3, and another $140 if you want to then plug that into an xlr for sit-down interviews.

INTERESTING, BUT NOT PERFECT

RODE Pin Mic -- recently released from RODE this mic is meant to be hidden in plain sight (the capsule pins through clothing. I could see this being very useful for event shooters and live broadcast, particularly if you didn't want to spend a lot of time mounting it. But the sound quality, while better than the me-2, felt a little lacking at the low end, and the fact that the mic faces out (even though it's an omni) did seem to mean a little more of the room was picked up. If you do a lot of weddings and other events though, you might want to consider it. About $250.

AN OLD STANDBY

Which led to the TRAM TR50, the flat, small lav that many of you will recognize from your sound recordists bag if you haven't already used (or owned) yourself. Easy to conceal and sounded much better than the pin mic. Far less handing noise than the COS11, and cheaper too ($250) although requires the same modifications and adaptors to use with G3 as the COS11. The downside was it came in pretty quiet -- even at 0b from the transmitter you still had to crank up the mixer more than 3/4 of the way to get have the audio peak in the the 0 - +6 db range and that added a small but noticeable bit of noise. So you could record it lower and let post deal with it if you need to crank it later, but that's a little complicated. Which led to:

THE EVENTUAL WINNER

(For me at least) The RODE lavalier. Also $250. Rich, full sound -- not quite as good as the COS11, but about the same size (which is to say quite small) and far more impervious to handling noise -- put it on my undershirt and moved around a bit and even without moleskin had no noise off the overshirt (which was soft cotton, granted, but still, not bad for a very quick and dirty mounting job). Best of all, only required a $30 G3 adaptor and a $50 XLR adaptor, so ended up saving me $150 over the tram and nearly $300 over the COS11. And bizarrely for a lav at least, comes with a five year warranty.

So there you have it. As always, I'd encourage you to try to test out these options in person and pick the combination that is right for how you use it most (and realize that ultimately, many people have at least two different kinds of lavs in their bag because there is no perfect choice). But if you, like me, were frustrated by the lack of controls (eg different receivers) and compression found on most internet tests, hopefully this feedback helps in narrowing down your decision. Sorry, no audio to post -- I really should have recorded it all -- but I will post a me-2 v. RODE comparison when I get a moment to pull it off.

I'm not wanting to buy a Zoom I don't think and I would like price to be reasonable and the ability to get to lavs into one system if possible.

• 1.0" LCD display screen
• Operating Frequency: 2.4~2.483GHz
• Battery display, Lock display, mode display, Autoscan manual, channel display and Mic plus
• RF output power: 50mW
• Apply to multiple channel operation or long distance transmission
• Powered by 1 x 3.7V / 710mAh lithium battery (Transmitter and receiver)

Price: $177.10

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/1-0-lcd-2-4ghz-50mw-stereo-wireless-microphone-system-transmitter-receiver-set-for-camera-122179

When I connect these mics to XLR ports with Rode's XLR adapter, there's an annoying signal sound, it's not hiss/humm, something else. When I use the 3.5 connection on the X/Y adapter of H6 with plugin power, this noise is still there.

ATR3350 has its own battery, so I don't think it's about phantom power (however I shut the power down). Also I realized when I touch the USB connection of H6 at right with my finger, the noise reduces (really weird). Same happens when I touch to the metal plate on the front face of the device as well. Somehow, my hand is stopping the noise.

When I connect these mics to Zoom H1, there's no noise. I contacted with Zoom product service, had a reply to my email, then they stopped talking with me. "Kind reminders" didn't work.

My only options for now are these devices and for a long time I'll not be able to afford a wireless transmitter. Here you can find a sound record demonstrating my problem, sorry for my weak English and moaning voice :) http://1drv.ms/1PWQCIh

Any solutions?

Big advantage is very sturdy construction and battery providing power (as most HDSLRs do not provide power for electret mikes).

Very good for the price.

Check additional details and price.

BONUS: I'll throw in a Sony variable frequency transmitter/microphone with cable, antennas, and microphone. I'm not selling this separately but including as a bonus because it is in the 'C' frequency band, around 794-803, which is no longer OK to use in the United States because it's reserved for other uses. But in remote areas or outside the US (check for local frequency access), it should be fine.

I also have a Sony ECM-77 lav wired/wireless mic that goes with the Sony. It was originally wired only but I had it modified so it can also be used wirelessly with the Sony transmitter. Add $50 for a total of $450 plus shipping and I'll include it as well.

Price: $2.22 or more

Specifications:

• Frequency Range : 30Hz~15000Hz
• Impedance : 2.2K Ohm.
• Sensitivity : -52dB±5dB.
• Plugging : 3.5mm.
• Length of cable: 2m.

Normal sound quality and sturdy construction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380555926825

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hands-Free-Clip-On-Mini-Lapel-Microphone-Plug-for-PC-Laptop-Notebook-AES16-/330710500935

I'm not gonna get into Lavalier mics for now - simply can't afford them (unless I find some worthy cheap deals to experiment with). But when I do, (if I'll really need to get Lavs for some wide-shot dialogues) I'm thinking to have a cheap setup like this http://www.danmccomb.com/posts/678/zoom-h1-as-wireless-lav-4x-cheaper/ with Tram TR-50 plugged directly into Zoom H1 (yes, you can't monitor, but hey it's a cheap solution). From one of the comments on that post, someone mentioned Oscar Sound Tech OST 802 lavs, which seems to be 1/3 of the price of TR50 (circa $120).

Here's a comparison/test with Sennheiser ME2

Have you ever heard of these OST802 lavs??? Someone even did a comparison between Tram TR50 and OST802 here http://proaudiocoalition.com/index.php/cdolan-pac/story/my_lav_mic_has_a_first_name_its_o-s-c-a-r/ (Tram TR-50 in the right ear, and OST802 in the left ear). OST802 indeed sounds very very similar to TR50 (although OST802 sounded a tiny bit "flatter", but nevertheless a whole lot more pleasant than Sanken COS11D or Sennheiser ME2).

What's your opinion?

Price: about $13-14

Specifications:

• Comes with 1m or 3m cables
• 3.5mm male connector
• Unidirectional
• Diameter: Φ6.5*5.0 mm
• Sensitivity:-47dB±2dB
• Frequency Range: 20-20KHz
• Output Impedance: ≤680Ω
• SNR >58dB

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UltraDisk-4016Pro-1-3-metre-3-5mm-Unidirectional-Lavalier-Interview-Microphone-/330651746768

Also good, sturdy mike for very affordable price.

Price: below $60 shipped

Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-mini-CZH-T200-portable-0-1-200mw-FM-Transmitter-radio-braodcast-Stereo-Mono-/320928340823

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-0-2Watt-Portable-FM-Transmitter-Stereo-Power-Adjustable-Broadcast-87-108MHz-/250999200442

Cheaper option.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARDIOID-STEREO-TIE-CLIP-LAPEL-ELECTRET-MICROPHONE-MIC-/280556007445

Sony one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-ELECTRET-CONDENSER-STEREO-MICROPHONE-LAPEL-CLIP-and-STAND-NEW-FREE-US-SHIP-/271184742203

Audio Technica

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audio-Technica-Stereo-Lavalier-Microphone-Ideal-for-recording-on-digital-media-/261237287511?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Microphones&hash=item3cd2f4aa57

I'm selling 2 Audio Technica Lavalier Microphones. These are the AT899 and includes the AT8537 Power Module. These are omni mics and produce really nice sounding dialogue/speech. They are in mint condition. They come configured in XLR. I will throw in connector cables for XLR to 1/8" as well as XLR to 1/4" TRS for free, so you're covered whether using XLR, 1/4" or 1/8" port.

Thank you.

So we're looking into other strategies. I like the idea of getting lapel mikes, having the actors wear smartphones or recorders, and syncing the tracks up in post. Good aspects; cheap, simple, easily expandable to any number of performers.

Someone suggested that we get a system where the mikes send wireless signals to a central recorder. I'm not keen on this, because it may be expensive, it may be difficult to balance the sounds afterward, and the number of mikes may be limited. But I don't know, so I agreed to ask around for such a system.

We're shooting with DSLRs (mostly GH2's), so that may be a factor here.

Any suggestions?

I only found two types on ebay, typically around 25 dollars for each. http://www.ebay.com/itm/UK-FUR-Windscreen-Lavalier-lav-lapel-mic-windshield-microphone-deadcat-windcut-/150993824135?pt=UK_MusicalInstruments_Other_Pro_Audio_Equipment&hash=item2327eee987

Do you know any cheaper?

Thanks

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/659062-REG/Pearstone_9111930_OLM_10_Omnidirectional_Lavalier_Microphone.html

The setup that I want to achieve is: Lav mic plugged directly into Zoom H1, which remains on persons body (hidden under clothes), and records clean sound directly - no wireless intervention. The problem with such a setup is that there's no monitoring. So for monitoring alone I'm thinking of getting dirt cheap wireless transmission system (for under $50, I don't even know what options are out there) that would plug into the headphone jack of the Zoom H1 and transmit to the receiver that is plugged into a cheap field mixer. From there I should be able to monitor the dialogue between several actors with lavs on their bodies. I don't know if it would work? Any expert advice?