AN "Valkyrie", GOLGOP3-13, GOP3ZILLA, natural, Freeze-less Reliable All-round GOP3 Settings :-)

bkmcwd

Series 2: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5385/gh2-freeze-less-reliable-all-round-settings-series-2-valkyrie-golgop3-13-gop3zilla-natural-

The meanings of my account name "bkmcwd" are "Burger King, McDonald's, and Wendy's." LOL Please do not mistake! :-)

At the same time as the silent users of my settings have increased in number, the request to me has also increased. Moreover, those who improve my settings uniquely also appeared. Therefore, I start a new topic, in order to arrange them.

I am a resident of Official Low GOP Topics. I was shocked from @kae's 3GOP in August, last year. In compromise to image quality and motion, I have thought since then that 3GOP is the best solution, in some mode like 24p at least. Although surely many wonderful longGOP settings also exist, the clearness of noise grain does not match Intra and 3GOP.

It is serious that I acquire information from this forum since I am poor at English. And in Japan which is a home country of GH2, I was hardly able to acquire information. However, I have learned much know-how from many experts, @cbrandin, @LPowell, @Ralph_B, @balazer, @towi, @Stray, @proaudio4..., especially the great settings of @driftwood!

I do not know whether my settings are the best. However, since those who are pleased with my settings adhering to big I frame size and short GOP have also increased in number, I continue improvement further more.

Because my English is poor, there may be many unclear things, but I do my best in some questions to answer enduringly.

[The common feature of my settings]

For example, if some setting tries to use low qp with the frame size limited like Intra, many level lines of the high qp macroblocks will also appear in each frame pictures. Although it is unclear for appearance in looking with eyes, it means that the codec is not committing this correctly. I am making the settings which can use the lowest possible qp appropriately, avoiding this isuue by using the biggest possible I-frames. On the high definition scene, if the minimum qp is too low, the range of qp will spread and, as a result, many of these level lines of the high qp macroblocks will appear. Therefore, in my settings, on the high definition scene, it has adjusted so that the minimum qp may become high appropriately. On the other hand, it has adjusted so that the lowest possible qp can be positively used under the lowlight. I think that 3GOP can realize this all-round performance with the motion. Therefore, when using my settings as only for lowlight, you may feel thing insufficient only a few, although sufficient dark place performance is still given. However, also in a bright scene, the codec hardly wavers with my settings. This is the point that especially I am scrupulous. Another point to which I attach paramount importance is "recording does not stop by any means in any situations." In order to adjust so that recording may not stop in a high stress scene, you have to test supposing the stress beyond it. I have spent many hours also on the torture test for it.

*The purpose tested with this screen is the check of durability or reliability to the last. About image quality, it cannot check at all by this test.

If it may become unstable with SanDisk 95MB/s SDXC, please give me feedback.
These features are common in almost all my settings.

[The feature according to type]

About "Valkyrie", it is to here:http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4391/apocalypse-now-quest-for-simulated-444-smooth-cinema-quality-driftwood-cbrandin-bkmcwd/p1

Since the link place was closed, Valkyrie of the new improved versions have been released in this thread. Please look at the latest information on downward.

"GOLGOP3-13" series is the settings for using low qp under lowlight positively. Simultaneously, it has tuned up so that a codec may work also in the high stress scenes as correctly as possible. The value of "Q13" to which I have stuck from last year realizes high image quality by practically lowest qp.

Furthermore, the original matrix is adopted in the newest GOLGOP3-13s. It is the middle of a Sedna matrix and a stock character. If it says plainly, it will be the Sedna matrix optimized in 3GOP structure.

"GOP3ZILLA" series is the all-round settings which covers all the scenes with the mean bit rate. In a general shooting, this series realizes the highest image quality with the value of "Q15" to which I have stuck from last year.

This is the simple setting which harnessed the feature of the stock as it was. I recognize this to be the normal evolution version of the stock.

"natural" series is the economical settings which covers all the scenes with the mean bit rate. In these series, it has also aimed that a codec works correctly also in a however high-stress scene. The value of "Q18" to which I have stuck from last year realizes the safest and good balance setting.

"MAX" versions in each types are the settings using maximum I-frame size which GH2 can use in24p mode. However, with MAX version, playback in camera may not often be available in 24p. This is because the maximum frame size which can be played back by GH2 may be exceeded. Of course, the file which cannot be played back in camera can also be satisfactorily played in PC. Supposing you consider that the playback in a camera is important, I will not recommend you this setting.　Please use normal version. However, IQ of MAX version is better than normal versions, IMO.

"A" means "Almighty" or "All-around". Since former GOLGOP3-13s were not able to use the too much low base Q all around, "standard" and "lowlight" were prepared, but since latest GOLGOP3-13 controlled qp appropriately on all the scenes, it was taken as "A." Unlike "MAX", in this "A" edition, in-camera-playback can be available in all the modes also including 24p.

*I decided that I did not use the name of "standard" and "lowlight" in the newest settings.

"standard": The Almighty setting which the codec works correctly as much as possible on bright scenes, and realizes low qp under the lowlight.

"lowlight": Although the codec may waver in a satisfactory grade on bright scenes, realize strongest high image quality under the lowlight.

*These features are mainly in 24p.

All my latest settings are here: http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/57882#Comment_57882

All my latest experimental settings are here: http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/57882#Comment_57881

REMEMBER: IF YOU USE THESE SETTINGS PLEASE MAKE A DONATION ABOVE TO VITALIY KISELEV FOR HIS TIRELESS WORK IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN. THESE SETTINGS ARE TOTALLY DEDICATED TO HIM. THERE ARE MANY QUIET USERS OUT THERE WHO HAVE NEVER BOTHERED OFFERING ANYTHING. PLEASE, PLEASE HELP TO KEEP THESE HACKS GOING. NO MORE DONATIONS = NO MORE SETTINGS. IF YOU HAVE MADE A SMALL CONTRIBUTION IN THE PAST, NOW IS THE TIME TO DONATE AGAIN. Thank you, bkmcwd

Again, special thanks to @driftwood, @cbrandin, and of course @Vitaliy_Kiselev! :-)

bkmcwd

ATTENTION!

*These are the latest information about bkmcwd settings.

UPDATE(2012/12/02):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A2_BETA4" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/99947#Comment_99947

UPDATE(2012/12/02):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX2_BETA4" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/99947#Comment_99947

UPDATE(2012/12/02):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A2_BETA3" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/99898#Comment_99898

UPDATE(2012/12/02):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX2_BETA3" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/99898#Comment_99898

UPDATE(2012/11/24):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A2_BETA2" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/98641#Comment_98641

UPDATE(2012/11/24):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX2_BETA2" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/98641#Comment_98641

UPDATE(2012/11/19):I have released Valkyrie Cinema Smooth TYPE-ZERO2_BETA 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original Cinema Smooth Matrix' and 'Modified Cinema Smooth Matrix'http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/97975#Comment_97975

UPDATE(2012/11/14):I have released Valkyrie Cinema Smooth TYPE-ZERO1_BETA2 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original Cinema Smooth Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/97165#Comment_97165

UPDATE(2012/11/13):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A2_BETA" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/97151#Comment_97151

UPDATE(2012/11/13):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX2_BETA" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/97151#Comment_97151

UPDATE(2012/11/10):I have released Valkyrie Cinema Smooth TYPE-ZERO1_BETA 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original Cinema Smooth Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/96707#Comment_96707

UPDATE(2012/11/08):I have released Valkyrie 444 Hybrid Candidate1 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Original EX Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/96321#Comment_96321

UPDATE(2012/11/06):I upgraded GOLGOP3-13_C5s and GOP3ZILLA_3_C4 as official editionshttp://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/57882#Comment_57882

UPDATE(2012/11/04):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.5d 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95603#Comment_95603

UPDATE(2012/11/03):I have released Valkyrie Flat4 V2 'Apocalypse Now' with Driftwood's Flat 4 Matrix in all modeshttp://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95494#Comment_95494

UPDATE(2012/11/02):I release new "GOP3ZILLA_3_Candidate 4" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95291#Comment_95291

UPDATE(2012/11/02):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.5c 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95258#Comment_95258

UPDATE(2012/11/01):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A_Candidate 4b" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95097#Comment_95097

UPDATE(2012/11/01):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_Candidate 4b" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95097#Comment_95097

UPDATE(2012/11/01):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A_Candidate 5" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95097#Comment_95097

UPDATE(2012/11/01):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_Candidate 5" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/95097#Comment_95097

UPDATE(2012/10/30):I release new "GOP3ZILLA_3_Candidate 3" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/94704#Comment_94704

UPDATE(2012/10/29):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A_Candidate 4" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/94583#Comment_94583

UPDATE(2012/10/29):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_Candidate 4" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/94583#Comment_94583

UPDATE(2012/10/16):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A_Candidate 3" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/92417#Comment_92417

UPDATE(2012/10/16):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_Candidate 3" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/92417#Comment_92417

UPDATE(2012/10/13):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.5b 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91852#Comment_91852

UPDATE(2012/10/13):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.4b 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91851#Comment_91851

UPDATE(2012/10/12):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.6b 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91749#Comment_91749

UPDATE(2012/10/11):I release new "GOP3ZILLA_3_Candidate 2" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91529#Comment_91529

UPDATE(2012/10/09):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.5 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix' http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91102#Comment_91102

UPDATE(2012/10/08):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A_Candidate 2" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91015#Comment_91015

UPDATE(2012/10/08):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_Candidate 2" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/91015#Comment_91015

UPDATE(2012/10/08):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.4 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/90981#Comment_90981

UPDATE(2012/10/08):I have released Valkyrie Flat4 'Apocalypse Now' with Driftwood's Flat 4 Matrix in all modeshttp://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/90974#Comment_90974

UPDATE(2012/09/28):I release new "GOP3ZILLA_3_Candidate 1" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/89015#Comment_89015

UPDATE(2012/09/28):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-A_Candidate 1" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/88947#Comment_88947

UPDATE(2012/09/28):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_Candidate 1" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/88947#Comment_88947

UPDATE(2012/09/25):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.3 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/88237#Comment_88237

UPDATE(2012/09/23):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.2 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/87723#Comment_87723

UPDATE(2012/09/20):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate1.1 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/86970#Comment_86970

UPDATE(2012/09/12):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate5 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/84396#Comment_84396

UPDATE(2012/09/12):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate4 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/84273#Comment_84273

UPDATE(2012/09/11):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO2 Candidate3 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix' and 'Modified 444 Matrix'.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/84152#Comment_84152

UPDATE(2012/09/06):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO1 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix'.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/81033#Comment_81033

UPDATE(2012/09/03):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-A_BETA4b" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/81994#Comment_81994

UPDATE(2012/09/03):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_BETA7g" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/81997#Comment_81997

UPDATE(2012/09/01):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-A_BETA4" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/81759#Comment_81759

UPDATE(2012/09/01):I have released Valkyrie 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin '444 Soft Matrix'.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/81033#Comment_81033

UPDATE(2012/08/30):I have released Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Original 444 Matrix'.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/81033#Comment_81033

UPDATE(2012/08/21):I release new experimental "GOP3ZILLA_Standard_V3_BETA1" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/79912#Comment_79912

UPDATE(2012/08/21):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-A_BETA3" setting.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/79890#Comment_79890

UPDATE(2012/08/17):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_standard_BETA7f" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/79419#Comment_79419

UPDATE(2012/08/07):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_standard_BETA7e" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/78183#Comment_78183

UPDATE(2012/08/07):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_standard_BETA7d" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/78136#Comment_78136

UPDATE(2012/07/17):"GOP3ZILLA_Standard_V2" is released officially.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/57882#Comment_57882

UPDATE(2012/07/13):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_standard_BETA7c" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/73996#Comment_73996

UPDATE(2012/07/11):I release new experimental "GOP3ZILLA_Standard_V2_BETA7" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/73547#Comment_73547

UPDATE(2012/07/08):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA8b" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/72971#Comment_72971

UPDATE(2012/07/07):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA8" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/72766#Comment_72766

UPDATE(2012/07/06):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA7" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/72523#Comment_72523

UPDATE(2012/07/05):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-A_BETA2" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/72295#Comment_72295

UPDATE(2012/07/04):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-A_BETA" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/72064#Comment_72064

UPDATE(2012/06/27):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA6" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/70924#Comment_70924

UPDATE(2012/06/19):I release new experimental "GOP3ZILLA_standard_V2_BETA5" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/69537#Comment_69537

UPDATE(2012/06/15):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA4" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/68891#Comment_68891

UPDATE(2012/06/12):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA3" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/68334#Comment_68334

UPDATE(2012/06/08):I release new experimental "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_EX_Standard_BETA2" setting. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/67558#Comment_67558

UPDATE(2012/06/06):I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_SednaAQ1C_Standard_BETA1" setting. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/67214#Comment_67214

UPDATE(2012/06/04): I release new "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA7" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/66911#Comment_66911

UPDATE(2012/06/03): I release new "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA6" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/66559#Comment_66559

UPDATE(2012/06/01): I release new "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA5" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/66232#Comment_66232

UPDATE(2012/05/22): I release "GOP3ZILLA_standard_V2_BETA4" setting. This is the experimental setting in HBR and FSH.: http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/64125#Comment_64125

UPDATE(2012/05/16): I release "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_standard" setting. Please look here for details: http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/62835#Comment_62835

UPDATE(2012/05/08):I release "GOLGOP3-13_lowlight", "GOLGOP3-13_standard", "GOP3ZILLA_standard", "GOP3ZILLA_SednaAQ1C_standard" and "natural_standard" settings.

UPDATE(2012/05/08):I release "GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C_standard" setting. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/61154#Comment_61154

The explanation about this thread is under preparation.

bkmcwd

MY LATEST SETTINGS: "GOLGOP3-13-A", "GOLGOP3-13-MAX", GOP3ZILLA_3

*Settings other than these are old settings.

*About Valkyrie, please look at the my latest informations. :-)

Since the experimental BETA versions are released at any time, please check the upper UPDATE information about the latest versions.

pdlumina

I'm adapting your GOLGOP3-13 for the GF2 with a couple HBR MJPEG settings I use a lot. Will test with a Sandisk Extreme 45Mb/s and report back. Looking forward to the new GOLGOP3!

olegkalyan

bkmcwd, thank you for your work, looking forward for a new patch. Big thank you to L. Powell, N. Driftwood and everyone that helped you in discovery! Kae settings were great!

nomad

You are not only constantly improving your settings, IMHO your English is getting better too!

brudney

keep up the great work bkmcwd:) I recently tried your Golgop settings and was pleasantly surprised:]

cjdincer

is there going to be pal versions of GOLGOP3-13 and GOP3ZİLLA and for Sandisk 30M/s cards which one is recommended. We certainly need good HBR, 1080 50i and 720 50p. Most of the settings do not have a balanced weight on all record modes; either 24p is good, the rest is useless or HBR is good, 24p is too noisy, etc... I know its hard to get somewhere with all these testing and trying. I believe soon we gonna have a very optimal pacth on all recording types.

bmcent1

Just wanted to say Thank-You and for a moment become more than a silent user :) ... I am running the latest version I saw here recently of GOP3Zilla w/ Sedna AQ1 c and I love the results. Thanks for this series of settings!

HillTop1

@bkmcwd, your English is not strange lol, you're fine. Nice that you started your own thread. Put things all in one place. Looking forward to what's new.

bkmcwd

Thanks guys! And you are welcome! :-)

@pdlumina

Although I am not detailed about the situation of GF2, I feel that the GOP3ZILLA is more suitable than GOLGOP3-13.

@olegkalyan

Yes! I got the motivation which has stuck to 3GOP from @kae. Since @driftwood is doing more difficult work in Intra, of course, it is also one of the motivation to have thought that I should do work different from him.

@nomad

I have got used to using translation software compared with last year. :-)

@brudney

Thanks! I am glad if feedback can be got. :-)

@cjdincer

Although I am not detailed about the situation of PAL, I am glad if you can use. :-)

*EDIT: "for Sandisk 30M/s cards which one is recommended"

I am not sure. However, I think that, for 30MB card, "GOP3ZILLA" is better than "GOLGOP3-13" and "natural" is also good.

@bmcent1

I will also be glad if you obtain a good result in my settings. :-)

@HillTop1

Thanks! It is more difficult for me than making settings to understand everybody's English rather. :-)

bkmcwd

UPDATE(2012/04/23):GOLGOP3-13 and GOP3ZILLA with stock matrix are updated. http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/58311#Comment_58311

I release "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA" and "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA3" settings.

In these, new GOP tables are adopted experimentally. These are the completely same settings except Q value. I am not sure which is better. And AQ1 was adopted in 720p. Therefore, 720p of these settings is completely the same.

Please try it. :-)

*Already combined with @thepalalias's "Pasadena_Pulse_Audio_V2_Beta2"

Since I noticed the vulnerability of 60p, I am just going to improve it now.

NOTE:

*Although bit rate setups are quite high, the bit rate which actually appears are lower than these. Since the actual bit rate changes by the object to shoot, please confirm by yourself.

*24H and 24L are high quality 3GOP setting with mega size I-frame.

*In GOLGOP3-13, 24p80%(30p) is available in only 24L.

*In camera playback is available in 24p. In other mode, Sometimes available.(Not tested yet, but probably)

*EX Tele works.(Not tested yet, but probably)

*Spanning in 24H, 24L with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC Card. In other mode, maybe not. (Not tested yet, but probably)

*Spanning in other cards needs to be tested.

jfro

@bkmcwd I'm assuming this thread is for your GOP3 settings which are going for the highest quality possible.

I know others are working on lower settings for GOP3 in the 40-80/90 Mb/s range.
Question is, do we talk about it here, back in the old gop 3 threads, or in each persons individual thread?

bkmcwd

@jfro

"do we talk about it here, back in the old gop 3 threads, or in each persons individual thread?"

As it has talked about Low GOP in other individual threads, such as Nick's, LPowell's, balazer's, until now also, I think that it is good anywhere. :-)

jfro

@bkmcwd Tested your GOP3ZILLA_V2_13 today. Used Sandisk Extreme 32gb 30Mb/s HD video Card. Tried about 60i, 60p, and 24P in short test in a couple different film modes.

In my stress test shooting in rain with lots of flowers, trees, bushes, the 30Mb/s card was able to fill up the 4 GB limit, but would not span for both 24H and 24L 24P mode at ISO 320. One 1 of 4-5 occasions, Windows 7 reported the length of clip wrong.

Then went driving in rain shooting through windshield n 24L. Got 3 spans with each clip around 9-10 minutes. 3rd Clip was stopped (by me) at around 5 minutes or 2GB. Windows reports it as 15:58 minutes even though it's about 53% the file size of the 9-10 minute 4GB clips. the first 2 clips have correct time that spanned. The 3rd clip with wrong time was the last clip I shot.

Movement looks good, but haven't done much watching as I have mainly been shooting lots to test the robustness.

Thanks for the work on the gop 3 patches.

bkmcwd

@jfro

Thanks for feedback! :-) In my test, 24H can be satisfactorily spaned with 95 MB/sSDXC card. Although I did not observe spanning except 95 MB/sSDXC card until now, I would like to inquire little by little from now on.

har_k

@bkmcwd, Thanks for your new settings.

I used "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA" and tried a few shoot in 24p(24H) mode. The clip itself averages around 60-100Mbps, but looks very fine (high detail). And no problem in using a SANDISK Extream HD 30MB/s 16GB. (Except my poor English:-})

Next time, I will try FSH, HBR and SH.

Thanks for your great work.

bkmcwd

@har_k

Thanks always mate. Looks nice! :-)

Since I noticed the vulnerability of 60p, I improved it. The improved version will be released tomorrow. Although not changed except 60p, AQ1 may be returned to Q15 and Q13.

And, FSH and HBR were not spaned in my torture test with SanDisk 95MB/s SDXC. However, 60p of next version is spanning with this card. Of course, 50p also spans.

karl

I tried GOPzilla (after Mysteron 24H/L and FSH were not stable enough for me on a SanDisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s 64GB SDXC card), and so far I'm happy with GOPzilla. I merged the MJPEG settings from Mysteron into GOPzilla, as GOPzilla seems to not tamper with MJPEG, but Mysteron MJPEG settings looked nice and were stable.

I didn't do a spanning test with 720p60, but if that mode is improved with your next version, that's of course appreciated.

I wonder whether I should try using GOLGOP (instead of GOPzilla) - I read it might be better regarding low light noise, but is there some actual example that shows the difference?

bkmcwd

@karl

Thanks for testing my setting and feedback! :-)

I also approve of your combining the MJPEG settings of @driftwood, and my settings.

"is there some actual example that shows the difference?"

I think that there is no actual example. I consider GOLGOP3-13 as the setting positively using low Q value of Q13 under lowlight. It tunes up so that it can be satisfactorily used also in a bright scene simultaneously with it.
Since surely low qp is realized under lowlight, I think that noises are reproduced more finely, but there are only comment from users.

olegkalyan

@bkmcwd which settings, "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA" or "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA3" will give better results? I do not need spanning, have 95mbs Sandisc cards. Thanks again for your great effort!

duartix

@bkmcwd I looked at "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA" and "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA3" settings. Their only difference is a Quantizer parameter=13/15.

Is this how it's supposed to be?

spike08

@ karl. Do you prefer mysteron or gopzilla in 24p? Can you tell me if there's a big difference in motion?

bkmcwd

@olegkalyan

I am not sure which is suitable for your purpose. However, I think GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA3 is better in using for allround.

bkmcwd

@duartix

Yes!

This is an experimental trial as written also to the upper explanation.

In these, new GOP tables are adopted experimentally. These are the completely same settings except Q value. I am not sure which is better.

Although I think that this GOP table fits GOP3ZILLA, it is the experiment of whether to be able to use also for GOLGOP3-13. Especially I adhered to Q13, Q15, and Q18 from last year, and have characterized the setting. It is just going to arrange in order to make characterization of each setting intelligible now. :-)

bkmcwd

UPDATE(2012/04/26):GOLGOP3-13 and GOP3ZILLA with stock matrix are updated.http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/58914#Comment_58914

I release "GOLGOP3-13_V4.14_BETA", "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA2" and "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA4" settings.

In these, new GOP tables are adopted experimentally. Seemingly "GOLGOP3-13_V4.14_BETA" is very Q13 setting, and realizes low qp aggressively in 24p. "GOLGOP3-13_V4.3_BETA2" and "GOP3ZILLA_V2.13_BETA4" are the completely same settings except Q value. I am not sure which is better. And 9GOP was adopted in 60p of all these settings. Since AQ1 was too aggressive for 720p, it was returned to Q13 and Q15.

Please try them. :-)

*Already combined with @thepalalias's "Pasadena_Pulse_Audio_V2_Beta2"

NOTE:

*Although bit rate setups are quite high, the bit rate which actually appears are lower than these. Since the actual bit rate changes by the object to shoot, please confirm by yourself.

*24H and 24L are high quality 3GOP setting with mega size I-frame.

*24p80%(30p) is available.

*In camera playback is available in 24p. In other mode, Sometimes available.(Not tested yet, but probably)

*EX Tele works.(Not tested yet, but probably)

*Spanning in 24H, 24L, 60p, 50p with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC Card. In FSH and HBR mode, maybe not. (Not tested yet, but probably)

*Spanning in other cards needs to be tested.

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