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GH3 user reviews and opinions
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  • If 2 ain't the canny i'll eat my panny...

  • Not sure but I'm not a fan of #2. Sure hope that doesn't turn out to be a Pany!

  • Using only the the best controlled and most revealing shot -- the lady's head turn --the worst of the bunch appears to be camera 2. 3 and 4 are similar, both with noticeable sharpening and similar highlight handling (not so great), and #1 appears to take the prize. So I'd hazard 1=BMC, 2=5D, 3=GH3, 4=GH2.

    Or will we all be proven idiots?

  • @Butt, I agree that Cam 2 is the 5D3. For me every other cam was able to show the detail on the fine cheek hairs or as we call it the "Peach Fuzz" on the skin of the actors. It's a dead give away in terms of detail capability. You can sharpen all you want but you can't fake those tiny little hairs. Also you can see that it looks like some sharpening was applied to Cam 2 at least IMO.

    Seems to me that the GH2/3 can work great as a B cam to a BMC.

  • @zapatas C2: I thought so too at first, but I then decided on the 5D MK III

  • Noise of Camera2 says it is a Lumix.

  • @shian, very interesting test. MY best guess is that Cam 1 is GH2, Cam 2 is 5D3, Cam 3 is GH3 and Cam 4 is BMCC. Actually i'm totally unsure about GH2 and GH3 they are so close, but pretty sure Cam 2 is 5D3.

    I think I could live with Gh2, GH3 or BMCC as a tool kit. Couldn't be as comfortable with 5D3 in the mix as I think it would be too obvious that it's a different camera. I'm only speculating on the one test so far. Perhaps I would change my mind after tests 2-4.

  • I have to bite my tongue til tomorrow night, but the cadence issues, grades, framing, etc will all be revealed then. We actually forgot to cover the cadence issues in our discussion about what we liked and didn't like about the cams, but I'll be sure to mention it in the VO in Ep 2.

  • please return to topic and for comparison do another topic because it will be part 2 and 3

  • @duckpark

    It's pretty obvious to me, as well. Even on a compressed file.

    The GH2 and GH3 are harder to pick out, I'm going to say that GH2 is 4, but camera 3's not too bad.

    First is definitely Blackmagic... could see it without pixel-peeping... just consistently looks better every time even with the super crushed info... but if you need an obvious tell, then look at all the banding in Camera 4, the large chunks of noise in 3 and 4, oversharpening of 2 (Canon).

    Only area where I did have trouble was the first, the cameras not being set in the same place and soft focused for the majority of the time definitely skews perception.

    More interesting to me is that most people, even owners of their respective camera, can't even tell them apart. Guess it doesn't matter which tool for a lot.

  • C1: GH2, C2: 5D MK II, C3: GH3, C4: BMC, and I think - all the camera are good for us

  • Sure. I'll play. Although I've never shot a movie in my life, have no professional training or experience whatsoever, have only a brief experience with a hacked GH2...

    ... and even though I only watched the compressed vimeo file on crappy laptop screen in the smallest size...

    ... BMCC still sticks out like a shiny object from a pile of mud.

    Doesn't that tell you something?

    (btw my guess is that's it's the first cam used in the takes)

  • @joesiv

    Which one is the Blackmagic camera? =]

    Pretty obvious which one it is for me, but I'm curious since which one you think it is?

    MarkIII sticks out horribly...

  • @shian This for the test. Did you do an error with the shutter on Camera 1(gh3?) in the fog test? The motion looked a bit videoish.. Maybe you shoot it 50p?

  • The outliers, 5D (FF) and BMC seem pretty obvious just due to the framing. Kind of makes the test less interesting, as it's hard to separate your feelings about cameras once you know which is which. But I can't wait to see the next parts, specifically the GH2/GH3 direct shootout.

    btw, what's with the BMC fog, colored lights grade? It looks wacky :)

  • Interesting. Thanks for putting this together. Tough time telling which was which but if I had to guess:

    Cam1 GH2 Cam2 Blackmagic Cam 3 GH3 Cam4 5D

  • now we are talking

  • @shian, great job you guys and thanks for doing this test. It came a little late for me though lol as I have already place an order for the GH3 after playing with it at my local camera store.

    I am watching it at work on my computer which is not any good but I will reevaluate my result and choices when I get home and check on my monitor, but so far what I like based on what I have seen;

    Test 1 - I am between camera 3 & 4

    Test 2 - camera 4

    Test 3 - I am between camera 1 & 4

    Test 4 - I am between camera 1 & 4

  • @shian

    Nice work! You guys should host a weekly...

  • Details are on the vimeo page. Let the vitriol begin. And definitely download the file. Vimeo really skews the results.

    Not the most polished, professional test ever, but we had 1/1000th the budget of Zacuto, and very little time. We do our best to stress the BMCC, 5DMKIII, GH3, and Hacked GH2 in a High Dynamic Range shootout.

    We went to some lengths to mess with the framing so as not to have the sensor crop give away which cam is which; primarily so that you'll focus more on which one(s) you like instead of trying to identify each cam. These comparisons have been graded down to the lowest common denominator to be as "equal" as possible. But in Part 2 we'll show you the raw footage.

  • Hi All,

    First post, just got the GH3 a week or so ago, moving on from using handy cam so lots to learn, been playing about all week, this is my first proper attempt at a composition after lots of reading, nowhere near perfect but pleased for first effort. Was trying it at 50p 1/100 didn't realize youtube couldn't show 50p so it's at 25p. No laughing at my panning either, first go :) Great forum learnt a lot already, lots more learning to go!

  • The camera captures detail.

  • @feha I was not speaking to you directly, rather those on here who have requested GH3 owners post more aliasing footage because they assume we must be hiding something if we don't actively promote moire in our videos. That thinking is beyond strange to me. I thought we were here to share info and try to get the most out of these cameras.

    What's even more ironic is that I haven't identified a single shot yet that's produced any moire on my GH3 and my Leica 25mm is a goddamned sharp lens. According to the "experts" the cam should self destruct or melt if I point it at anything other than a bare wall. I hate to disappoint, but I can't even get the damn battery level on this bitch to drop a single notch after shooting 2 hrs of brick buildings and timelapse... it's like the Panasonic engineers figured out cold fusion then stuffed a small reactor into every battery pack.

  • i shoot an documentary on tokina 11-16 and didn't have one single moire problem so i dont find it so troublesome. Moire show up on some shoots but you spot it on the lcd right away.