@stonebat

I didn’t say either Friedman or his guest is correct.

You don't get the point. Issue is not that they are incorrect, issue is that people are being paid for to make interviews and tell you stuff that will make your life more miserable. This guys are your enemies. They are elegant and smart looking, but are enemies, similar to Waffen SS Hitler guys (and have similar goals).

You can narrow down to only a few choices and pick one with high conviction. Or you can broaden choices to many possibilities and increase the chance to include one possibility that matches to actual event when it happens. But it’s very hard to pick one possibility with high conviction and get it actually right at the end.

You slide to idealism constantly. This happens as capitalists actually prevent you (and most people) in taking part in decision making and real transformation work. But solution is not in ancient philosophies or in juggling nice sounding terms. Solution is to throw parasites out and get life in your hands, so real problems solutions will be discussed and real science progress will start, where it won't be any Lex Fridman's and if they will attempt to interfere - they'll be at least in labor camps.

@stonebat

Ouch, Lex Fridman returns.

Note that all 100% of his interviews are pro capitalist mostly highly idealistic bullshit (like this one). Even if it all sounds complex and important it does not mean that it has no purpose to trick your mind and logic.

It is direct, 100% direct connection, between anti soviet and anti communist lies from previous video and idealistic nice looking AI crap that represent big part of his channel content. Lex Fridman is the warrior on the front that is fighting to prevent real science progress, real AI progress.

Suppose all those things have been lies. And you know damn well those are lies. 100% conviction! Zero doubt! Then what did you do today other than googling for finding more evidences to assure yourself so that you know you are right? And who cares if you are right or wrong other than yourself?

Issue with capitalist lies is that they need big majority of ordinary people to believe in them (hence why Fridman channel is heavy promoted, for example, it is just niche, of course). As it is less and less capitalists around, more and more monopolies, so they need to work hard. If it will be 100-150 less people who will eat this shit after reading this topic - it is already very good and dangerous for capitalists.

Seems fair to me.

@stonebat

Btw, amazing book https://www.amazon.com/Bury-behind-baseboard-Pavel-Sanaev/dp/1499227868/

is directly connected to this family who sing a song, book written by son who lived in grandparents family :-) Recommend.

@stonebat There is a theory that some of the piramids of Egipt including the great one where actually some kind of temples where they took little children and learn them they're science and philosophy and how ra created everything so beautiful. When growing up to 20 years old they've bring them out of darkness to the outside world with great ceremony...now can you imagine how great they're conviction was(assuming that it was so) and voila they had a unshakable ruling class.

Now they replicate this on a global scale with the rulers on top of the piramid and the masses always in the darkness.

So good luck with “So blue” is enough for me. It's kind of utopia long ago devoured thru the ages...

@stonebat

Tao Te Ching was not.

Issue is that all, 100% popular and widely known philosophies had been created either by exploiters directly or creators had been 100% sponsored by ruling class. As all other guys had been busy working all the time.

@stonebat

I don’t wanna live in the world driven by CCP preaching “for the progress”.

Don't want? Well, in this case get COVID, after this another one, miserable life, new Green deal, right after this ecological fascism and more misery.

It is nice to bury the head in the sand and wait for nice thing to happen, but riling class has nice plans for your ass that is sticking up :-)

My interest is Tao Te Ching. That is older than confucianism. I don’t think there is much left in China about it because CCP destroyed China’s old traditions and philosophies. Idiots...they destroyed Chinese people’s family and moral values. I don’t wanna live in the world driven by CCP preaching “for the progress”. Tao Te Ching is about restoring human morals. No ideological dream is going to restore that.

@stonebat

You seems to be lost.

Remember that philosophy is just depiction of real issues and society. Idea to escape from complex modern problems into nicer old ones is not more than escape. Even if it is called nicer.

@stonebat

I agree with you that original big bang theory is bs.

Problem is not that it is BS. Problem is to understand that it is and why it is promoted with such force. Problem is to understand and show how in last 60-70 years we got bunch of parasites living on the back of society organism who produce nice looking papers and nice sounding presentations but can't move progress in proper direction.

@stonebat

One simple metaphor of oriental philosophies: What is evil? It depends. Let’s say your pet dog poops on grass. It will nourish the land. But land will die if a truck dumps massive amount of poops on the same grass. Thus less can be more.

Here all is simple:

People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be, until they have learned to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.

V. Lenin.

This fits science perfectly.

You need to understand that it is no such thing as non class science. Lot of late USSR fool scientists though so but they just made most tragic error.

Error you make is that you think that some theory is just some "idea" of isolated scientist or small group of them that become popular because of some nice qualities. It is not so.

Theories like Bing Bang are products of class society, where ruling class actually ORDERS such theory, not specific theory, but such a theory that will have qualities and explanations that fit the ruling class narrative in its fight with exploited class. Same is true for religion, as all main monotheistic religions had been made up by quite large collectives over quite long period of time with one sole purpose - make exploitation more effective. And you can easy see this efficiency - as more people died painfully and prematurely from this tools than from any other means.

Get COVID-19, it is product of class society science, where developing biological weapon aimed at masses is nice and legit goal (and that is being performed now in almost all leading countries), Only within last year this guys made at least 10-15 new viruses that are much much more deadly and spread much nicer.

@stonebat

I know this theory very well, and as I said, whole theory of Big Bang came from religion (to be precise - from extremely idealistic physics) and had been hyped as anti communist theory (as it is anti materialistic).

Since early 20th century and especially towards 50th-70th years period it had been big dream that you can construct such theories and toss the fact such a way so it'll be possible to support exploiters (in USSR new arising groups also supported this theories and helped enemies). And as physics existed almost 100% on the money directly from ruling class grants or from top investor funds - they jumped on the train.

Sorry if it sounds little radical, but I intentionally doing this to keep people attention and show them that things are not as they seems to be presented at large media sites or large youtube channels.

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

So, no it is not true that "everything come from nothing", as it is just modern version of religious bullshit made up as old version did not stick on your ears properly anymore.

Of course it's not true it's maybe one of the greatest scam in history of humankind. The actual sistem doesn't come from thin air there's always a foundation on which can be build anything beeing strong or weak.

Actually the clerics from long ago where more or less in tbe same position as today ruling class (the things evolved of course but not for better).

First of Genesis and first of Jhon where they took "everything comes for nothing" actually doesn't say anything about nothing as nothing doesn't exist...

Where i live there is a saying...same shit under different hat.