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Fuji X PRO 1
  • sohussohus
    The Fuji mirrorless system has arrived, very exciting if you ask me: (high quality body, revolutionary sensor, fast primes, good price)

    - Three new lenses: 18mm (27mm equivalent) f/2.0, 35mm (53mm equivalent) f/1.4 and 60mm (90mm equivalent) f/2.4
    - Responsephoto says the Camera+35mm lens kit will cost 1.300 Euro. That’s actually just a bit higher than the Fuji X100 price. The other two lenses will cost 600 Euro each.
    - Responsephoto says the sensors name is X-Trans! R. writes that Fuji took some ideas from the classica film technology to create the new sensor which will beat the image quality of all current fulflrame sensors! The photosites will be of 6 different colors and disposed randomly, therefore moire will be avoided.
    - There is no Anti Aliasing filter on the sensor.
    - The lenses are made of metal.
    - The camera has the new X-mount. The lens mount acutally goes a little bit “inside” the body! The mount diameter will be large and its flange will be of 17.7 mm.
    - The viewfinder is hybrid (optical and electronic). The optical viewfinder changes the view depending on the kind of prime lens you sue. This again is an idea coming from the Contax G2!
    - Other incredible new thing: The autofocus sensor is…external! There is a special AF sensor on the camera body!

    http://photo-cult.com/tests/ReponsesPhoto239-p8.jpg

    I really hope Fuji delivers. Everything looks amazing... build quality, specifcations, lenses. I haven't found any video specifications yet.
    ReponsesPhoto239-p8.jpg
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  • stipstip
    If it comes to sensor innovation, Fuji is the brand I put my money on. Canikon and the others constantly improve what's already there, which is ok but kind of lame to me.
  • sohussohus
    Yes, but they also promised lots of great things in the past but I never really saw what their marketing department said. But still, they are doing new stuff and sensors is where the biggest improvements can be made so I love that they try to do exciting new stuff. I also like that they are gathering to classic photographers and not consumers that only look at specs. There are enough companies catering to those customers.

    I hope the megapixel race is over. Lets' make the most out of 'plenty'. Nikon and Canon are already going down that road with the 1Dx and D4. I hope their whole line follows that trend.
  • danyyyeldanyyyel
    There is a new article on Nikonrumors from the magazine french magazine reponse photo it translate a bit like that

    For video it says full hd format in h.624, many framerate nd with some first like (entry in line, headphone, sound monitoring and vumeter, uncompressed hdmi, transition to black...
  • madrendermanmadrenderman
    very interesting thing, i did some of my best shot with s5 pro fuji, excellent dinamic range, wonderful color.
  • RRRRRRRR
    Looks very promising indeed! Exactly the kind of form factor I've been wanting for long. Let's hope they deliver!
  • AlexAlex
    A sensor with error diffusion style photosites distribution is a very exciting concept. I hope for a very natural, organic lucking image!
  • bubbabubba
    The big thing to me is Fuji is changing the classic mode of light having to strike the sensor directly (& exactly on) the perpendicular direction in order to record an image. The new lenses increases the color saturation "sweetspot" by 28%.
  • AlexAlex

    Telling from the shutter speed options, there are no high hopes for a "game changer" on the video side. At least Not for PAL people (15, 30, 60, 125 ...) 1080 60p with a organic dithered image would be of interest though :-)::..

    http://photorumors.com/

  • stipstip

    Will it even be able to do proper video? I read that this sensor design needs quite a bit of processing power.

  • AlexAlex

    http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/

    h.264 in .mov container (no word on bitrate yet)

    1080 24p

    odd: shutter speeds are not suitable for 24p/PAL

    http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc498/43rumors/Fujifilm-X-Pro1-camera-top.png

  • DrDaveDrDave

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/fuji_x_pro1_launch.shtml Fuji "Pro" camera: the good--large sensor, no AA filter, prime lenses The bad: No mic input (Fuji, you are stupid, stupid, stupid) 30 minute recording limit (stupid, stupid, stupid) No IS as yet (ummmm, stupid) If the bitrate is decent we may forgive you for the mic input, but, seriously, thirty minute limit, say "Cheesey"

  • stoneystoney

    It has no low pass filter. What a bold move by FujiFilm.

  • kholikholi

    Waiting for footage....

  • stoneystoney

  • stipstip

    Waiting for footage....

    Me too because I have no idea how footage from that sensor will look like. I'd like to know if that very interesting dynamic range boost works in movie mode as well and if the sensors design can still surpress aliasing for video. If so, it'll be interesting to see what the image looks like resolution wise. Too bad Fuji isn't serious about video implementation, so I hope it sux :)

  • LPowellLPowell

    The top video above features a photo of the 6x6-cell RGB array used in the X-Pro1 (@ 3:55):

    G R B G B R

    B G G R G G

    R G G B G G

    G B R G R B

    R G G B G G

    B G G R G G

    Although this is not a "random" pattern, it features R and B palindrome patterns on every third row and column. That should reduce multicolored moire patterns significantly. However, most of the G pixels are grouped in 2x2 arrays repeated every third pixel horizontally and vertically. Since luminance is mostly determined by green pixel response, that will create a square grid pattern of reduced luma sensitivity at 1/3rd the horizontal and vertical resolution of the sensor. While this shouldn't be an issue at downscaled HD video resolution, it may have an undesirable fixed-pattern effect on the camera's highest resolution still image quality.

    The chroma resolution of the 6x6 grid is also 1/3rd the horizontal and vertical resolution of the sensor. Compared to the 4:2:2 color depth of a standard RGBG Bayer sensor, this might be loosely described as a 5:2:0 color depth, since there are 2.5 times as many G pixels as R or B pixels in the 6x6 grid.

    While the 6x6 RGB grid allowed Fuji to eliminate the optical anti-aliasing filter, that doesn't make the camera immune to aliasing artifacts. The palindrome R and B patterns will partially cancel out a large amount of the chroma artifacts, but luma artifacts will still be present. Fuji no doubt designed a proprietary digital filter to suppress the luma artifacts while preserving as much of the fine image sensor details as possible.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    For HD video it is all good.

  • stipstip

    For HD video it is all good.

    Good! Vitaliy, I remember you posted about the way the sensor's design allows a unique way of boosting dynamic range for stills. Do you think that this in theory could be available in video mode as well? Also, do you ever sleep? :)

  • kholikholi

    I'm down for another flavor of APS-C Sized HD VIdeo Capabilities...

    Can't believe it's taking so long to actually show footage, though. Guess not all of the companies are interested in nabbing that business.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    There were a couple of still photos online, they looked a bit soft to me but wait and see....

  • stipstip

    'Can't believe it's taking so long to actually show footage, though. Guess not all of the companies are interested in nabbing that business.'

    I really think Fuji sees video mode as nothing but a tedious obligation they successfully checked off. Probably no manual control anyway and if they really don't offer 1/50 shutter it will be pretty much useless in PAL land.

    That PRO neg film simulation is interesting

  • RRRRRRRR

    Re: shutter who knows, maybe there is more shutter control than the dial only, and who knows if it will be the same increments in PAL land as for NTSC.

    By the way, I think it looks a tad bulky for a rangefinder..

  • AlexAlex

    they really like to again invent the "j-Leica". If this "like-film-grain-RGB-pattern" works as advertised they are pretty close. Paying no special attention to video might be a big mistake. All photo journalists I know of are asked more and more to do also video. Same in the fashion biz. Their target group might be those ambitious photo grandpas ...

  • sohussohus

    Guys, I think this thing was made 99,98% for photography. Video mode was just a checkbox.

    I alto thought I read that you can also set shutter in menu. I think this might well be the perfect photo camera. Olympus has a digital OM coming though... maybe it will have good video options. The market is getting crowded. Companies just need to step away from those stupid AVCHD format specifications (and offer higher bitrates and framerates).

  • DrDaveDrDave

    I've now see a bunch of photos, and I wouldn't say there is anything there that looks "sharp". Here is a fullsize jpeg, hope this is not the best this cam can do. Because Fuji, you have a camera that is slightly chunky, slightly bigger, slightly slower lenses which are also chunky, there better be some serious IQ to go with this chunkiness. http://dcfever.com/articles/news/2012/01/120110_xpro1_06l.jpg

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